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36. "I don't understand any of this. It's just not true."
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"Nolan’s Dark Knight suffers from too much telling and not enough showing. We’re told repeatedly that Dent is a great guy without ever actually seeing him be great. But that’s not the case with the characters in The Batman. You actually SEE Batman’s growing pains , Catwoman’s street smarts on display, Jim Gordon’s undying faith in Batman. The characters are so authentic that you can’t help but be drawn in and root for them."


Michael Cain and Gary Oldman had a tremendous yearning for Gotham and Bruce Wayne. Absolute undying faith that grew with each film. Almost to the point of making the audience cry. You can't say Nolan's films didnt let you SEE while ignoring the fact that you could completely remove Andy Serkis' Alfred from The Batman and it wouldn't change a thing. There was zero connection there. It was just "you're not my father" over and over again. Nothing made you SEE Gordon or Alfred had some undying faith in Batman. There was no story. We are just supposed to believe it as an audience from the get-go. We saw Christian Bale fail numerous times while learning in Batman Begins. Saw his fear. His desire to be accepted. To belong to something.

I just dont understand this revisionist history people are making because they liked The Batman. I liked it too. But the Nolan trilogy, the first two atleast, still hold strong.

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THE BATMAN discussion post (Matt Reeves, 2022) [View all] , bwood, Thu Feb-24-22 06:09 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
So this is more of a Year One is story?
Feb 24th 2022
1
More along the line of THE LONG HALLOWEEN
Feb 24th 2022
3
      I'm in for sure
Feb 24th 2022
5
      Uh oh. Long Halloween was a slog for me (comic and cartoon)
Feb 24th 2022
8
I'm probably not going to step foot inside a movie theater
Feb 24th 2022
2
RE: I'm probably not going to step foot inside a movie theater
Feb 24th 2022
4
They switched it to a theatre only release.
Feb 25th 2022
9
there were some minor dialogue clarity issues
Mar 05th 2022
25
Gatdamn...your review, now this is what I wanna hear
Feb 24th 2022
6
your description sounds fire.
Feb 24th 2022
7
I love his description of this movie. I can't wait.
Feb 25th 2022
10
I don't think i've ever asked this before
Feb 25th 2022
11
I didn’t think I could be more excited for this flick, then I read you...
Feb 26th 2022
12
Fuck it, I rented a theater
Feb 26th 2022
13
Did you really? Which one in SD?
Feb 28th 2022
14
      INbox
Mar 03rd 2022
16
           AMC private rental experience
Mar 05th 2022
26
I liked it a lot.
Mar 02nd 2022
15
I could watch this twice a day for the rest of the year.
Mar 04th 2022
17
Easily the best cinematic depiction of the character of Batman.
Mar 04th 2022
18
Really enjoyed it
Mar 04th 2022
19
Gorgeous, and dare I say daring, cinematography *spoilers*
Mar 04th 2022
20
Added a spoiler warning to your subject line, Nodima, lol.
Mar 04th 2022
21
      Thank you!
Mar 05th 2022
23
This is, by far, the best Batman movie ever (spoilers)
Mar 04th 2022
22
Visually amazing, well performed, decent story
Mar 05th 2022
24
Spoiler question
Mar 05th 2022
27
RE: Spoiler question
Mar 05th 2022
28
Best origin Batman movie. But not better than The Dark Knight
Mar 06th 2022
29
I’ll bite :)
Mar 06th 2022
30
The Dark Knight is a legendary performance within a good, not great flic...
Mar 06th 2022
31
Batman movies have always been about the villains other than Begins
Mar 06th 2022
32
Oooh, that's actually why I think this one felt way *less* flat.
Mar 06th 2022
33
      We’re in complete agreement
Mar 07th 2022
34
I wouldn't watch this movie over and over.
Mar 07th 2022
35
RE: Best origin Batman movie (YES)
Mar 07th 2022
37
I enjoyed it a lot. Not sure it's better than TDK but
Mar 07th 2022
38
Love the discussion, feels like we need to hop on a Zoom lolol
Mar 16th 2022
39
Great and funny review and it’s better the second time
Mar 16th 2022
40
The ending: SPOILER
Mar 16th 2022
41
It was a good costume. Probably best in the movies BUT
Mar 17th 2022
42
      The costume translation is always an issue. Such different mediums.
Mar 17th 2022
43
      It wasn’t a photo op. That was him learning how to be a better Batman.
Mar 20th 2022
44
           Understood. That's what I liked about the IDEA of the ending
Mar 20th 2022
45
deleted scene with Joker (link)
Mar 24th 2022
46
creepy...as...fuck
Mar 24th 2022
47
Loved the scene but glad it wasn't in the movie
Mar 24th 2022
48
I'm in this line.
Mar 25th 2022
50
Sick of the Joker
Mar 25th 2022
49
I want them to build him up for 1-2 more movies.
Mar 25th 2022
51
visual masterpiece. most naturalistic Batman on film ever.
Apr 11th 2022
52
HBO Max on Monday, April 18th
Apr 12th 2022
53
On second viewing, The Penguin is wholly unnecessary
Apr 18th 2022
54
definitely a storyline too much
Apr 18th 2022
55
It was way too long. I think they wanted HBO Max spin-offs
Apr 19th 2022
56

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