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39. "... but is this textual?"
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>Strange WANTED to try that spell, Peter's predicament just
>gave him an opportunity to do what he was going to do anyway,

Like, is there a part of the movie NWH that makes it clear that this was a fault within Strange for doing this? That he wanted to try to tinker with space-time? That he was going to do it anyway?

Maybe there was some scene where they explained this, but I missed it if that's the case. And even if they did have a textual scene making it clear that was the reason, I still don't think it vibes with the character arc the MCU had set him on.

>also, he didn't think it all the way through, CLEARLY.
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>Impulsivity & selfishness.
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>BS like NWH is supposed to be the shit that MAKES him the cold
>self-less dude we know him to be NOW.

But it's the same guy who put himself in an infinite kill loop to save the world in the first movie-- and the same dude who let himself and half the population die for a *chance* at beating Thanos. Wasn't he already calculated and selfless before NWH?

In fact, the whole plot of Multiverse is around the idea that his calculated nature makes him believe that sacrifices made for the greater good are worthwhile-- that it's building on the idea of Infinity War/Endgame. And as mentioned above, clearly in the first movie, in Infinity War, and Multiverse, he's completely cool with sacrificing himself and his well-being, as long as it's for the greater good.

But, like, his behavior in NWH doesn't remotely vibe with that character arc imo. There's no argument that what he's doing is for the greater good, and he's acutely aware of the dangers. He's definitely a guy who tinkers with dangerous spells, but only when it's for saving lives.

I just don't think the guy who let half the universe die for a shot at long-term success is the same guy who'd mess with space-time because a sad teenager he'd fought with a couple times asked him nicely to.

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Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (Sam Raimi, 2022) [View all] , bwood, Wed Dec-22-21 01:51 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Another trailer.
Feb 13th 2022
1
RE: Another trailer.
Feb 14th 2022
2
      Professor X? Where?
Feb 17th 2022
3
      I’m trying not to watch it again but Magda is a wild inclusion.
Feb 19th 2022
5
      You mean the bald guy?
Feb 17th 2022
4
Please be careful on Twitter!!!
May 01st 2022
6
RE: Please be careful on Twitter!!!
May 04th 2022
12
Fucking weightless
May 03rd 2022
7
RE: Fucking weightless
May 03rd 2022
8
RE: Fucking weightless
May 03rd 2022
9
Be honest. Are Marvel movies running out of steam?
May 04th 2022
10
      I haven't seen it yet myself, but I'd say, absolutely not
May 04th 2022
11
      And they're not even mediocre. Just the same i guess.
May 05th 2022
14
           RE: And they're not even mediocre. Just the same i guess.
May 05th 2022
15
      I would say no, although the formula is pretty well set at this point
May 04th 2022
13
      Do you mean creatively or in terms of pop culture impact?
May 06th 2022
20
      Personally, I lost the "must see" feeling right after Endgame
May 07th 2022
27
Largely agree with bwood. Spoiler free review below:
May 06th 2022
16
I like what you said re: bigger and bigger and bigger
May 07th 2022
28
MASSIVE SPOILER/COMPLAINT WITHIN THIS REPLY:
May 06th 2022
17
RE:
May 06th 2022
18
RE: MASSIVE SPOILER/COMPLAINT WITHIN THIS REPLY:
May 06th 2022
19
Please tell me Krasinski is NOT Reed in the FF film
Jun 26th 2022
35
yeah, it's a hard no on that casting decision
Jun 26th 2022
36
Fun enough, but it has a couple issues
May 06th 2022
21
This was one of my chief complaints about the last Spider-Man.
May 06th 2022
22
There’s still a moratorium on saying negative things about NWH
May 06th 2022
23
lol that’s fair
May 06th 2022
24
      GET BACK TO YOUR FUCKING ISLAND, FRANK
May 06th 2022
26
They tried to cover that with a joke in Spidey 3, but it was kinda weak
May 06th 2022
25
Convoluted but I'll explain.
Jun 29th 2022
38
     
           Textual? No, alluded to? Yes, briefly in a convo w/Wong.
Jun 29th 2022
40
i enjoyed it *vague spoilery talk*
May 09th 2022
30
man that was fire.
May 08th 2022
29
It was clunky and bad: SPOLIERS
May 09th 2022
31
I'm glad I am easily entertained lol
May 09th 2022
32
I'm old. Another Movie that is just doing waaay too much.
May 23rd 2022
33
the multiverse is gonna be rough for general movie audiences.
Jun 26th 2022
34
every Raimi film I've seen is at least interesting
Jun 26th 2022
37
These wildly fluctuating power levels is becoming a problem.
Jun 30th 2022
41

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