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13. "9.7 on IMDb / apparently the show mimics Alexander the Great's rise"
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Wanted to see if other viewers were blown away by this episode like I was, and found this user review sitting at the top. Pretty interesting:


I'm very surprised to say about a series gone this long, but Guagamela is one of the best episodes so far.

The episode has taken a lot from classical literature, especially the history of Alexander the Great's Macedonian empire. The name of the episode is a reference to one of Alexander's greatest victories, the battle of Gaugamela. Marco Inaros assumes the role of Alexander. His ship is called Pella, which was also the capital city of ancient Macedon.

Marco Inaros' (Keon Alexander) speech at the end uses a lot of rhetorical techniques used by kings and generals of the past, as written down by ancient scholars. He is a bona fide space-faring warrior-king. The juxtaposition of The Belt and ancient Macedon/Greece is very clear for those who are well versed in this part of history. The Macedonians and Greeks were vassalized and later incorporated into the Persian Empire and suffered through great ordeal and atrocities. The Persians considered themselves to be at the centre of the World, or "Inners", while the Greeks for them were at the outer edge, or "the belt" with inferior peoples. Alexander, with his Macedonian beratna and "Free Greeks" seized the Persian Empire like a lightning storm, or should I say asteroid shower. Like Alexander's army of the past, Inaros' troops care little if the casualties of the enemy are soldiers or civilians, deeming it their right to exact revenge upon their oppressors.

In his speech Inaros talks about how the outer planets and the Ring Worlds now belong to the Belters. This can be seen as a reference to what Alexander The Great told his troops - that the uncharted and unknown worlds of the east (modern India) belonged to the Hellenic peoples after the crucial victory at Gaugamela which opened the Gates of Babylon for his army. When Inaros talks about a new way of life, a better way, a Belter way, this again is what Alexander The Great's objective and conduct was. As his army moved across lands they were followed by a huge amount of architects, engineers, clergymen and scholars whose task was to establish new cities and Hellenize the conquered lands.

I lift my hat to the authors of the novels. They have done their research and fictionalized it superbly, and of course the production team for putting it all on screen so well. Now I'm very curious to find out whether Inaros faces his "mutiny at Opis" later on in the story (I have not read the books).

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The Expanse - Season 5 [View all] , funklectic, Wed Dec-16-20 06:30 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Do you mean 5?
Dec 17th 2020
1
RE: Do you mean 5?
Dec 17th 2020
2
Season 5 - (can we get a mod edit). It is off to a great start.
Dec 19th 2020
3
Yeah, man, really good start
Dec 20th 2020
4
have you read all the books? amz series is done after next season (6).
Dec 20th 2020
5
      Yeah, all caught up on books. Last two have been fire!
Dec 21st 2020
8
Yup, I'm loving the first three episodes so far.
Dec 21st 2020
6
      yeah. even from the books, the Ilus / Season 4 was a bit of a different
Dec 21st 2020
7
5-4: gotdamn. GOAT episode of the series?
Dec 23rd 2020
9
Yeah it's definitely up there.
Dec 23rd 2020
10
RE: Yeah it's definitely up there.
Dec 28th 2020
12
that was so heavy. the villains keep getting worse.
Dec 28th 2020
11
      well damn. i didn't know about all the alexander the great tie-ins.
Jan 09th 2021
14
           I just like anything with Amos in it.
Jan 09th 2021
15
                Amos is so well written+ Wes is so perfectly cast
Jan 10th 2021
16
                RE: Amos is so well written+ Wes is so perfectly cast <--- this.
Jan 10th 2021
18
                he is without doubt, my favorite character in the books AND series.
Jan 10th 2021
17
                     RE: he is without doubt, my favorite character in the books AND series.
Jan 11th 2021
19
                          RE: he is without doubt, my favorite character in the books AND series.
Feb 05th 2021
30
Anyone want to break down the end of episode 7?
Jan 14th 2021
20
nah, good questions. innernets say 15 - 90 secs survival.
Jan 17th 2021
21
Big guy (Cyn) is dead I think.
Jan 18th 2021
22
Lukewarm on latest ep. (8)
Jan 21st 2021
23
8 & 9 were both underwhelming.
Feb 04th 2021
26
agree and agree. i mean, i get it. naomi is gritty and smart and that wa...
Feb 04th 2021
27
Any of y'all know what Naomi was doing
Feb 06th 2021
31
      RE: Any of y'all know what Naomi was doing
Feb 07th 2021
33
           RE: Any of y'all know what Naomi was doing
Feb 07th 2021
36
                RE: Any of y'all know what Naomi was doing
Feb 07th 2021
37
                     Ahh...got it.
Feb 08th 2021
38
Episode 10...
Feb 02nd 2021
24
They just freezed the frame & painted in some zero-G blood, lol.
Feb 04th 2021
25
same. same. same.
Feb 04th 2021
29
      RE: same. same. same.
Feb 06th 2021
32
i *just* got finished watching. was on a lowkey media embargo
Feb 04th 2021
28
Really good finish to really strong season
Feb 07th 2021
34
      definitely agree. earth was overpopulated in the books. maybe 13-14Bn
Feb 07th 2021
35
Up for season 6?
Dec 23rd 2021
39
It's weird that the season is halfway done.
Dec 23rd 2021
40
RE: Up for season 6?
Dec 24th 2021
41
      RE: Up for season 6?
Dec 24th 2021
42
           RE: Up for season 6?
Dec 24th 2021
44
                protomolecule stuff will probably surface / resurface in the last 2 eps....
Jan 04th 2022
45
did y'all see talk of expanse getting reupped w/ amazon as a sequel seri...
Dec 24th 2021
43
The showrunner said it's a lie n/m
Jan 05th 2022
46
      "fuck" (c) every cast member, every episode.
Jan 07th 2022
49
6.5 might be my favorite ep of the whole series thus far
Jan 07th 2022
47
lol! I came in to post it was one of there worst
Jan 07th 2022
48
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Jan 14th 2022
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