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10. "A lot more of a Gillian Flynn pulpy thriller than I expected."
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This isn't "an Oscar movie" in the same way that Gone Girl isn't really designed to be an Oscar movie. It's full of terrific actors chewing the scenery, social commentary delivered with a sledgehammer, over-the-top dramatic Zimmer score, and plenty of intentional goofiness/B-movie scenes and lines. It might get Oscar noms regardless, but it's not a "serious" movie the way the Oscar label (or the name Steve McQueen in the credits) may lead you to expect.

I expected McQueen to dive further into serious character development, the way most of his previous work has done, but he seems to enjoy here the fact that he's mostly deploying rote characters with snappy zingers. A few characters get just enough backstory (usually delivered in a monologue) to keep them complex, but even the ones that aren't are still a lot of fun.

Daniel Kaluuya and Robert Duvall are both fantastic playing the types of pure evil characters that wouldn't feel out of place in a Tyler Perry movie, but here, y'know, the acting is good and the dialogue is good and the cinematography is good etc. This is the benefit of brilliant casting. He tosses Garrett Dillahunt and Kevin O'Connor both into roles that could've easily been cardboard cut-outs, but strong character actors and strong production value elevates it.

Plus, y'know, there's just the thrill of the fact that we don't see some of these things onscreen. As Viola Davis has pointed out in the press junkets, we open with a dark-skinned middle-aged female hero engaged in sexual open-mouth kissing. How often do we see that on screen in a mainstream studio movie? How often do we see a complex depiction of the escort lifestyle?

Finally, while some of the social commentary stuff clunks a bit imo, the depiction of politicians is absolutely dynamite, because its two main characters get the most complexity-- maybe even more than the widows do. Farrell is trying to win, not because he's pure evil, but because he can't imagine losing his position in life. He genuinely thinks his programs help people, but he also genuinely likes how much money it puts in his pocket. Meanwhile, Henry is from the neighborhood and wants the rich white outsiders not to control his neighborhood, but he also admits to running for office because it's a means for upward mobility. He's not a noble savior of the common man-- he just is tired of being a thug on a street level and aspires to the legal thuggery of politics. The fact that neither of these guys is a desirable candidate really resonates. (It also allows for a lot of fun monologuing from two actors that can *really* chew scenery.)

Overall a lot to enjoy here. It probably lags a bit here and there, some sequences drag compared to others, etc, but it's an elevated pulp bomb the likes of which we rarely get to see. So I enjoyed it.

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Widows (Steve fucking McQueen, 2018) [View all] , bwood, Mon Jun-04-18 09:14 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Set It Off with Oscar aspirations
Jun 04th 2018
1
Thats a killers row of casting across the board
Jun 04th 2018
2
It's a crime drama to me.
Jun 05th 2018
3
I had a chance at a test screening and I missed it.
Jun 05th 2018
4
May I ask... why would it have been a fascinating test screening?
Dec 06th 2018
19
yup. looks amazing. zimmer on the track!
Jun 05th 2018
5
Thats one helluva trailer. Im in!
Jun 07th 2018
6
Widows | Official Trailer
Aug 15th 2018
7
Sold
Aug 15th 2018
8
gets a bit lost along the way but crescendos superbly to the end
Nov 10th 2018
9
I think the parts where there is no score makes it seem slow.
Nov 25th 2018
14
Didn't know Daniel Kaluuya had that in him
Nov 19th 2018
11
I want more of this, but I don't want him typecast as a villain.
Nov 25th 2018
15
      man, when he walked in the driver's crib
Nov 26th 2018
16
           the look on his face when he couldn't crank the volume fast enough
Nov 27th 2018
17
really good
Nov 19th 2018
12
Hollywood is going to be copying this film.
Nov 24th 2018
13
good stuff....
Dec 03rd 2018
18
spoilers ahead ... Was I missing something with the very last scene
Dec 14th 2018
20
      MAJOR SPOILERS ahead ...
Dec 14th 2018
21
      I guess? none of that would've been in the notebook though.
Dec 20th 2018
23
      Either the set-up for a sequel or she' talking to her imagined version.....
Dec 24th 2018
24
A really good film with REALLY great elements
Dec 17th 2018
22
This deserved to be a 6-episode limited series
Dec 29th 2018
25
dialed in heist film.
Dec 22nd 2019
26

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