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47. "Fantastic. One of the darkest superhero movies I can think of. "
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Sure, it's brightly colored and set to a light, airy 70’s soft rock soundtrack but this movie is as dark as they come from a storytelling standpoint. It’s not dark from a fantasy standpoint either, as it’s all rooted in very real and relatable human issues. In fact there’s a startling amount of abuse in here that seems to go beyond standard hero/villain dynamics.

-Rocket’s self-loathing. He reminds me a lot of Jackman’s Wolverine in this regard. There’s a depth to his loneliness that comes across very well. He’s essentially a “thing”. A science project. It’s one thing to be different, but to be so consistently reminded of just how different you are, it can make for an incredibly difficult existence.

Like many things in this film, that weight is muted through humor, such as when Mantis mistakes him for a pet dog or when Quill fires off one of the funniest insults in all of the MCU when he calls him a “trash panda”, but those are deep cuts for Rocket.

-The revelation of Yondu trafficking children to be murdered by their father.

-Ego having kids for the sole purpose of furthering his plan of universal genocide and murdering them for being unable or unwilling to serve said purpose.

-Quill is one of those children. Not only that, he finds out pops didn’t just leave his mother… he murdered her.

-The revelation of the extent of the horrific physical and emotional abuse suffered by Nebula as a child and Gamora’s unwitting complicity. Lose a fight, get a body part torn out and replaced with mechanical parts.

-The way the Ravagers treated by baby- toddler?- Groot. It’s awful enough given his inherent cuteness but when you realize Groot is a sentient being and view him the way you would any human child, that’s a gut wrenching scene.

Strip way the bright colors, fun soundtrack and all the jokes and this is an incredibly morbid film. Keep the same story and dialogue for Rocket but replace Bradley Cooper with Jackie Earle Haley and he is, quite literally, a whole different animal.

Frankly this is the template for what a sequel should be.

I see some tepid reviews but this is one of the most multifaceted films in the history of the genre and I think time will be kinder than the initial reviews seem to indicate. Gunn pulls of an incredible elemental balancing act here.

-Everyone got meaningful screen time.

-Multiple threads from the first film got a proper and sensible payoff. I.E, despite Yondu’s status as a villain, Ravagers in both films become increasingly angry at Yondu for being “soft” in the way he deals with Quill and here we see why. He got a well-executed arc that upset me for all the right reasons.

-At least two satisfying redemption arcs that I can think of off top.

-Every character is likable and deeply relatable in ways that, IMO, absolutely surpass their Avengers counterparts. Every character grows from their first iteration to some degree, except perhaps Drax.

This isn’t to say the movie is flawless or above criticism, but there’s an awful lot to gush about. There are plot and story issues but so many elements are so well balanced at such a high level, those flaws look incredibly minor by comparison. It’s easily the best character piece in the MCU and I’m not sure it’s close.

  

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Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2 (Gunn, 2017) [View all] , aScribe, Wed Oct-19-16 11:34 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Bring it on.
Oct 19th 2016
1
dope.
Oct 19th 2016
2
Love the tagline.
Oct 19th 2016
3
cool. first one was nice as hell
Oct 20th 2016
4
It's trailer Christmas this week.
Oct 20th 2016
5
word up
Oct 20th 2016
6
New Trailer
Dec 03rd 2016
7
Better Link
Dec 03rd 2016
8
Dude, that last part is straight up hilarious
Dec 03rd 2016
9
      That was so hilarious. Batista's facial expression was hilarious
Dec 03rd 2016
10
           Dave was REALLY good in the first one
Dec 04th 2016
14
fox on the run!
Dec 03rd 2016
11
Jesus Christ I am so hype for this flick
Dec 03rd 2016
12
awesome
Dec 03rd 2016
13
Baby Groot is gon crush the buildings...can't wait!
Dec 05th 2016
15
Extended Super Bowl Spot
Feb 06th 2017
16
Another trailer
Mar 04th 2017
17
I completely missed this, thanks
Apr 15th 2017
19
Where you at, Bwood?
Apr 14th 2017
18
It's a fun film
Apr 18th 2017
20
Saw it a second time last night
Apr 28th 2017
21
      cool
Apr 28th 2017
22
that was a lot of fun and surprisingly emo
Apr 29th 2017
23
It was funny. First one is better.
May 04th 2017
24
Was it necessary for Kurt Russell to play 18??
May 05th 2017
25
Now thats a great marvel movie. Go see it in 3D
May 05th 2017
26
They went to the Comically Big Laugh well a few times too many
May 06th 2017
27
I agree with everything you said
May 06th 2017
30
yeah. the comedic dialogue was my least favorite part of the movie.
May 16th 2017
49
I might be alone on this, but I'm tired of Baby Groot. I want real Groot...
May 06th 2017
28
I love Baby Groot but like many of the jokes in Vol. 2...
May 06th 2017
29
it was good
May 07th 2017
31
that music magic thing...
May 07th 2017
32
mr blue sky in the intro was GOLD tho
May 07th 2017
35
explaining Brandy was so effin corny to me
May 07th 2017
34
"Good dang fun" was my thought afterwards...
May 07th 2017
33
Fun as hell, little too long
May 07th 2017
36
So, are we waiting until Black Panther for them to tie everything in?
May 08th 2017
37
Better and worse then the first film
May 08th 2017
38
Loved it. The universe building was really awesome.
May 09th 2017
39
Surprised by complaints of lack of focus/plot/etc.
May 10th 2017
40
Plot-wise, the first half meanders.
May 10th 2017
41
I was underwhelmed
May 14th 2017
42
I loved it
May 15th 2017
43
Tremendous follow-up to the 1st
May 15th 2017
44
Seriously, everybody had a crying scene ...LOL
May 15th 2017
45
Great follow-up. Not much drop off from the first.
May 15th 2017
46
Man that Groot scene was funny.. Love that Howard the Duck cameo
May 15th 2017
48
some incredible spectacle.
May 16th 2017
50

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