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64. "I like it alot, but my only beef is that its consistently good"
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when it can be consistently great. Like my man Lorca...







**SPOILERS**

Lorca was a great character concept that theywasted. Someone above mentioned in Star Trek lore in the fleet there was a heavy war hawk contingent and tackling it as a theme (in a property that at times was a little too optimistic) would have been a good angle since the current golden age of television favors it’s anti-heroes.



The thing is that whole mirror storyline which was perfectly set up was squandered. Here you had a civilization that zinged where they should have zagged and as opposed to seeing what happens when ‘good’ ideals get corrupted; everyone was the badguys. And don’t get me wrong; it was entertaining as hell, the entire season has been entertaining as hell. But it could have also been smart at the same time too.



For some reason I think if we were in DS9 the Lorca universe would have been a great story about how power corrupts and that taken to the extreme even ‘good’ guys can be bad (which other Trek shows have played around with). But here they were so cartoonishly villainous that I felt like they squandered the opportunity.

Now that Michelle Yeoh’s character is in their main continuity there is still a chance to explore some of those themes in a time of war. But considering how she was literally snacking on alien people only two episodes ago I don’t see that moral discussion lasting long.

It reminds me of another entertaining show that had a great idea eventually ran out of stunts to cover themselves, Walking Dead, and what they did with the Shane character.

While Shane was a ‘bad guy’ what made his legacy great was ultimately his amorality was right; his pro-active ‘Survival first, morals second’ was adopted to a certain extent by almost all the characters in the show since his death particularly the main leads. The Klingon’s winning the war is the moment where Lorca could be proven ‘right’ and having a less psychopathic version of him there would be great for the show. But now? He’s was just a looney dude that’s trying to date his ex’s twin sister, lol.

  

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Star Trek Discovery [View all] , bwood, Thu Jul-21-16 05:00 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Please no time travel.
Jul 21st 2016
1
J.J. won't recast Anton
Jul 21st 2016
2
If they're playing with time travel, they should call Walter Koenig.
Jul 21st 2016
4
Damn shame....
Jul 21st 2016
3
The show premiered this Sunday. Anybody watch?
Sep 25th 2017
5
loved Episode 1
Sep 25th 2017
6
Love it.....
Sep 26th 2017
7
I'm hopeful, but not fully convinced.
Sep 26th 2017
8
On second viewing...
Sep 26th 2017
9
Well
Sep 27th 2017
10
      Hey, it's Nopayne!
Sep 27th 2017
14
      another NERL
Sep 28th 2017
17
           Haha I never left, really
Sep 28th 2017
18
                lol.. better man than I... or something rather
Sep 28th 2017
19
RE: I'm hopeful, but not fully convinced.
Oct 08th 2017
29
Not even a ST fan, but I enjoyed the first episode...
Sep 27th 2017
11
I liked it! I get the gripes tho
Sep 27th 2017
12
I took her switch
Sep 27th 2017
13
wait wait wait wait....
Sep 27th 2017
15
Watch on Netflix, gonna hip ya'll on how to do it
Sep 28th 2017
16
RE: Watch on Netflix, gonna hip ya'll on how to do it
Sep 28th 2017
20
same here.
Oct 08th 2017
30
Can you do this on your phone?
Oct 06th 2017
28
RE: Star Trek Discovery
Oct 01st 2017
21
that's a very good point about first episodes
Oct 01st 2017
22
      RE: that's a very good point about first episodes
Oct 01st 2017
23
           The advanced tech doesn't really bother me
Oct 02nd 2017
24
                Yup
Oct 04th 2017
25
                     another reason TNG i think really nailed some of the tech
Oct 08th 2017
31
                          communications tech people can usually invent as they imagine it
Oct 09th 2017
34
Episode 3 still flames.
Oct 04th 2017
26
Some of it fits in nicely with canon
Oct 04th 2017
27
i'm digging this show
Oct 09th 2017
32
Episode 4
Oct 09th 2017
33
yeah
Oct 09th 2017
35
      RE: yeah
Oct 10th 2017
36
Still good. Really liked the last episode. Y'all still watching?
Oct 29th 2017
37
I'm still watching
Oct 29th 2017
38
      I applaud CBS for trying to find a balance....
Oct 30th 2017
39
Anybody Still Watching?
Nov 09th 2017
40
Still watching.. and enjoying it.
Nov 10th 2017
41
I'm frequently doing the Comic Book Guy thing, but still into it.
Nov 10th 2017
42
I'm deeply entrenched into this series
Nov 14th 2017
43
Ep 10 -- Ugh.
Jan 09th 2018
44
Then stop watching it
Jan 09th 2018
45
There's more to it than that, though.
Jan 09th 2018
46
      RE: There's more to it than that, though.
Jan 09th 2018
47
      I mean if we're being real the first three seasons of TOS sucked
Jan 11th 2018
48
           Yeah, I really don't care for any of TOS,
Jan 11th 2018
49
lost interest 15 minutes in
Jan 13th 2018
50
This show is fire
Jan 21st 2018
51
I'm looking forward to it.
Jan 22nd 2018
52
I hope you like it I thought it was awesome
Jan 22nd 2018
53
      I still can't get over this mirror universe thing.
Jan 25th 2018
57
Ep 12 OMG!!!!
Jan 23rd 2018
54
This episode was great. SMG and the rest of the crew are brining it.
Jan 28th 2018
58
Show is straight flames
Jan 23rd 2018
55
RE: This show is fire
Jan 25th 2018
56
LOL at "Make the Empire Glorious Again."
Jan 28th 2018
59
Yeah, it's not perfect
Jan 28th 2018
60
I'm not criticizing (anymore).
Jan 29th 2018
61
      RE: I'm not criticizing (anymore).
Jan 29th 2018
62
      you're not wrong...good points...I don't disagree with any of this...
Oct 09th 2018
72
Two episodes left
Feb 02nd 2018
63
Idcidcidc I love this series
Feb 06th 2018
65
It's a good show
Feb 06th 2018
66
      So.Gud.
Feb 06th 2018
68
Apparently Discovery is the most talked about show on TV
Feb 06th 2018
67
what a shit finale
Sep 06th 2018
69
watching series on free trial...LOVE it so far!
Sep 14th 2018
70
finished season 1...we're hooked!
Oct 09th 2018
71
So, it's back. 2epis into season 2... Very meh
Jan 26th 2019
73
yeah I enjoyed ep 1, but ep 2 was kinda blah.
Jan 29th 2019
74
Lol now that others are 'meh,' I'm loving it!
Jan 29th 2019
75
I'm still liking it but they went hard Star Trek on it.
Jan 29th 2019
76
I'm still in...
Apr 15th 2019
77
me too, this season has been GREAT...
Apr 16th 2019
78
waiting, so I can binge, but I am all in.
Apr 16th 2019
79
Meh, started out strong.
Apr 16th 2019
80
I grade anything trek on a huge curve... But man
Apr 19th 2019
81
Pretty much
Apr 19th 2019
82
I give zero fuchs about canon, this show is just fun to watch.
Apr 19th 2019
83
this is pretty much where im at too
Apr 20th 2019
84
The show is REALLY good
Apr 22nd 2019
85
Love this show and enjoyed the finale....
Apr 22nd 2019
86
I thought it was great.
Apr 22nd 2019
87
First ~1/2 of the season was really great.
Apr 23rd 2019
88
I just watched Season 1
Jun 14th 2021
89
All in for another season. Loved the Black Love in Space with Book.
Jun 17th 2021
90
I like Book - not sure about the di-lithium kid though
Jun 29th 2021
91
      I don't mind them checking multiculti boxes as long as Michael
Jun 29th 2021
92
Season four starts this week!
Nov 14th 2021
93
Damn that episode was actually pretty good.
Nov 18th 2021
94

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