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38. "I dunno. Sexist just b/c she's crying?"
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Most of the complaints seem centered around the general idea that the cover is rapey as much as anything else, and I don't really see that either. And in the story it was referencing, Babs was crying... with good reason. The way people are reacting, it's like it's not okay for a hero/ine to be portrayed as scared.

I get it, it just seems a bit heavy-handed to me, especially when there's stuff like Ame-Comi Girls on the DC shelves. The Catwoman and Outsiders NU52 reboots caused a furor, but none of that stuff got pulled. But who am I to judge whether someone should be offended or find something sexist.

That said, everyone involved agreed to pull it rather than offend some readers, and that's great. Albequerque's statement was quite gentlemanly and the whole thing seems to have been handled quite well.

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The Batgirl #41 (The Joker variant cover) Controversy [View all] , aScribe, Wed Mar-18-15 12:13 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
For the record, I'm fine with it...
Mar 18th 2015
1
Goddamn it I hate the internet.
Mar 18th 2015
2
I get it.
Mar 18th 2015
3
I both get it and feel like it was overblown at the same time.
Mar 18th 2015
5
Precisely. Let's say Spider-Man was sodomized by Venom.
Mar 18th 2015
7
question for you:
Mar 18th 2015
9
      No, you misread what I'm saying.
Mar 18th 2015
11
few things
Mar 18th 2015
8
a few more things.
Mar 18th 2015
12
Yeah, it does look like he's about to sexually assault her
Mar 18th 2015
13
      boom
Mar 18th 2015
14
           Without the History of the Killing Joke that cover isn't as bad
Mar 19th 2015
24
                ..but that cover IS referencing The Killing Joke.
Mar 20th 2015
42
                     Exactly
Mar 21st 2015
47
maybe I'm the wrong person to ask, but I think that's a dope cover.
Mar 18th 2015
4
props to the artist for the sensitivity to pull in once death threats ha...
Mar 18th 2015
6
remember how much folks hated the comics code authority?
Mar 18th 2015
10
yyyyyyyyyep
Mar 21st 2015
48
      I think outrage fatigue is going to set in soon
Mar 21st 2015
54
           No one in here is blindly outraged, though.
Mar 21st 2015
55
                Wasn't referring to PTP speciffically
Mar 21st 2015
56
this seems like the anti-gamergate
Mar 18th 2015
15
As per the writer of this version of Batgirl and the artist...
Mar 18th 2015
16
      thx
Mar 18th 2015
17
      tone of the book indeed
Mar 18th 2015
18
So people are mad at a Comic Supervillian doing some evil shit
Mar 19th 2015
19
No, people are mad at a super heroine being depicted as a victim.
Mar 19th 2015
26
      Once again, he's a SUPERVILLIAN, their whole modus operandi
Mar 19th 2015
30
           Heros don't cry and therefore neither should Heroines
Mar 19th 2015
33
                Batgirl isn't Batman's equal
Mar 21st 2015
49
                     Not only that, but to my understanding Batgirl is supposed to
Mar 21st 2015
52
This is so stupid
Mar 19th 2015
20
It's stupid when the creative team and the artist agree...?
Mar 19th 2015
21
^^^
Mar 19th 2015
28
Isn't that another character together? EDIT: You're right
Mar 19th 2015
23
Except they don't show Batman pissing his pants when he fights Bane...
Mar 19th 2015
31
      THANK YOU!
Mar 19th 2015
32
      ^^^
Mar 19th 2015
35
      Agree. You don't see this. (fan art of Superman + Doomsday)
Mar 19th 2015
37
      LMAO!!!!
Mar 20th 2015
44
      that would be a fantastic cover, though
Mar 21st 2015
51
     
           Sexist because it's a female character crying in fear re: a villain who....
Mar 20th 2015
41
Good cover for a Vertigo comic. Bad cover for a regular ass issue
Mar 19th 2015
22
Maybe I need to re-read Killing Joke, but I don't remember sexual
Mar 19th 2015
25
Well, I mean....
Mar 19th 2015
29
      it always seemed fairly apparent to me.
Mar 20th 2015
43
           Alan Moore says that she wasn't
Mar 21st 2015
50
I'm glad this convo is being had, but still disagree with nixing it...
Mar 19th 2015
27
The artist wanted it removed. What principle is being violated?
Mar 19th 2015
34
^^^
Mar 19th 2015
36
Well, in my opinion, that's a slippery slope...
Mar 20th 2015
39
      Yeah...this happens all the time in comics and publishing...
Mar 20th 2015
40
           basically.
Mar 20th 2015
46
if you were actually reading the book, you'd get why the creators reject...
Mar 20th 2015
45
I don't see an issue with them changing the cover if t doesn't fit
Mar 21st 2015
53

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