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Wordman
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22. "now hold up, let me explain"
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>You done let me down. That entry was NOT for the people at all.

BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That shit had me dying!!!!!!!!!
Well done sir.

>Few responses:
>A) Many people would dispute that Badlands is Malick's best
>movie.
>B) Many people would give that honor to Days to Heaven.
>C) Many others would give it to Tree of Life.
>D) Some may even give it to The Thin Red Line.
>E) Believe it or not, there are even some staunch supporters
>of The New World. I'm one of them. (Though I don't think it's
>his best.)

I think he gets a lot more shine as a filmmaker because of Badlands. I think if he hadn't made Badlands, he'd get put in the same category as a Peter Weir (which is far from a bad thing, I mean, we should all be so lucky...). But when I hear filmmakers swoon over him, they're swooning because of Badlands. Thus, his "rating" is based on one film. That's someone being overrated.

>F) Many people would say To the Wonder is Malick's *only* true
>misfire.

They would say that because they are correct. But if you're gonna take out Malick's worst film, you gotta take out Tarantino's worst (an interesting question; Inglorious Basterds in my opinion - because I really love Death Proof) as well as Nolan's worst (last Batman or Interstellar - I really didn't like the last 2 hours). I mean, we're trying to evenly compare these 3 cats who poorly comparable.

>I don't want to get into the "most overrated" argument for any
>of these guys, since they all have merit in one way or
>another, but if forced, I'd probably argue that Malick is the
>most UNDERRATED on that list, since he's the only one that
>isn't even a household name. How can someone be overrated if
>90% of casual movie watchers don't even know who he is and
>therefore can't even rate him at all, let alone overrate him.

I wasn't basing the argument on "household name-ability." Because then yeah, Malick wins underrated by default.

>Granted, he doesn't make blockbusters, or even try to, but
>he's highly respected amongst his peers/critics and has
>between one and four masterpieces to his name, depending on
>who you ask. (Most people who don't generally like his stuff
>will still acknowledge he's got at least one.)

My vote for Malick being overrated is because of this almost overbearing praise he gets for ONE movie. He's not revered for Days Of Heaven, he's revered for Badlands. It's impressive that Days Of Heaven is as good as Badlands, but it wouldn't mean half as much without Badlands.
Also, when Malick did the disappear for however many decades, his status was further cemented by film cats because of Badlands/violence/'70s American New Wave, not because of Days Of Heaven/Eugene O'Neill lookalike.

>Hard to say he's overrated just among critics, too, because
>most critics savaged his last one a year or two ago. I think I
>was the only person in the whole fucking PTP who didn't
>actively hate it. He's usually too polarizing to get the kind
>of sweeping, across-the-board critical acclaim that he'd need
>to be classified as "overrated."

That's not entirely true. You remember how much press there was for Tree Of Life? A movie by a man who hadn't made a movie in what? A decade in a half or something? THAT'S proof he's overrated.

>(I also acknowledge that posts of exorbitant praise like this
>one are precisely the reason that Malick is even on this list,
>but fuck it. Don't care.)

hahahahaha. Grant me the space to say there is a world where Malick is the most overrated filmmaker of all time - and that world is far better than ours.
But between me and you...if I see another shot of a hand running over fields of grain with the camera turning down and counterclockwise...



"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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Most overrated director from this group [View all] , John Forte, Tue Nov-11-14 10:24 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Just talking about direction? QT
Nov 11th 2014
1
U rite. I should have said filmmaker
Nov 11th 2014
2
They're all overrated to some of y'all, and it's hilarious.
Nov 11th 2014
3
they're all over-rated, but my vote goes to Malick
Nov 11th 2014
4
RE: they're all over-rated, but my vote goes to Malick
Nov 11th 2014
5
      RE: it isn't any better than Tree of Life
Nov 11th 2014
6
the concept of "overrated" has always seemed so stupid to me.
Nov 11th 2014
7
It's not stupid to you. It's stupid, period.
Nov 11th 2014
8
RE:
Nov 11th 2014
10
good shit.
Nov 11th 2014
11
RE: good shit.
Nov 12th 2014
17
RE:
Nov 11th 2014
12
RE: this is also true
Nov 12th 2014
18
the death of video stores has a lot to do with this
Nov 16th 2014
24
on that thought
Sep 26th 2016
25
Man I STILL haven't seen all of Blade Runner
Sep 27th 2016
27
It can be important because it shapes future films
Nov 12th 2014
14
      There are those whose flaws are often ignored and excused away
Nov 12th 2014
15
           RE: There are those whose flaws are often ignored and excused away
Nov 12th 2014
16
Shyamalan > Nolan (c) OE
Nov 11th 2014
9
Shyamalan has made more movies I love than Nolan has.
Nov 11th 2014
13
      lol.
Nov 13th 2014
19
Overrated = "rated higher than proven" then its MALICK
Nov 13th 2014
20
What in the entire fuck are you talking about, Wordman?!
Nov 13th 2014
21
     
      This is the problem with "overrated"
Sep 29th 2016
29
      breh. I fucks with that Thin Red Line.
Sep 29th 2016
28
           It's amazing. Best war movie I've ever seen.
Sep 30th 2016
30
RE: Most overrated director from this group
Nov 14th 2014
23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGR65RWwzg8
Sep 26th 2016
26
Malick by a country mile
Sep 30th 2016
31

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