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"The Blacklist / Network Drama discussion"
Tue Sep-24-13 11:40 AM by Frank Longo

  

          

So because I've run out of cable dramas to watch I've decided to give some Network dramas a chance. I didn't realize it until recently but the only network shows I watch are comedies and lightweight some reality shows.

So I tried to check out Blacklist last night which is being hailed as the best new drama (isn't it funny how drama on TV would be action in film).

It wasn't awful but damn it was derivative. I mean cribbed heavily from Silence of the Lamb and every character or situation we have seen somewhere before (saw a lot of the Killing in the relationship between the couple).

It was also very Network Drama in the sense that visual realism just doesn't seem at all to be an aspiration. Why is every character super attractive. Do we really think the CIA headquarters looks like that? Contrast the Network depiction of locations with Cable's depiction of CIA HQ in Homeland.

Reminded me of CSI shows I occasionally catch on TV and I marvel at all the good looking detectives working in state of the art futuristic crime labs. Doesn't everyone know that people and the locations don't look anything like that in real life?

So I wonder if it's purposeful. In order to get bigger audiences, are Networks required to create high gloss pretty visuals and tell easy to follow derivative stories?

Do all the great dramas on cable TV have small audiences because they are on cable or are networks correct in passing on Sopranos, Mad Men, etc. because even if they were on network TV they would never do the numbers to sustain them?

Is it the audience or the Networks fault?



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The Blacklist / Network Drama discussion [View all] , Buddy_Gilapagos, Tue Sep-24-13 10:28 AM
 
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I'll give blacklist a few more episodes but I was disappointed
Sep 24th 2013
1
yeah, that call was o_O
Sep 24th 2013
2
its so predictable that i'm sure the writers realized that
Sep 24th 2013
15
Oh yeah! is it really a mystery who the girls father is?
Sep 24th 2013
5
I'm getting into Scandal and liking it so far, but for the most part
Sep 24th 2013
3
Is Scandal Different?
Sep 24th 2013
4
      I feel like it's at least differrent enough from most network fare
Sep 24th 2013
25
      Scandal is horrible
Sep 24th 2013
28
      Soap operas can be cool tho. Like first season of desperate housewives
Sep 24th 2013
30
      I have no problems with soaps
Sep 24th 2013
39
      Can network TV keep up?
Sep 24th 2013
32
           I don't think any broadcast drama would reach those levels
Sep 24th 2013
40
                RE: I don't think any broadcast drama would reach those levels
Sep 25th 2013
41
      The only one I can see standing up to cable drama is "The Good Wife"
Dec 03rd 2013
67
I don't believe that the the little girl was kidnapped that easily
Sep 24th 2013
6
Or after anoucing that there would be a diversion. No one
Sep 24th 2013
11
The Blacklist is a "drama" the way that 24 is a "drama."
Sep 24th 2013
7
RE: The Blacklist is a "drama" the way that 24 is a "drama."
Sep 24th 2013
33
      Ooh, good call, re: The Good Wife. Forgot about that.
Sep 24th 2013
35
           RE: Ooh, good call, re: The Good Wife. Forgot about that.
Sep 24th 2013
37
And DC friends: what the hell zoo was that?
Sep 24th 2013
8
I really didn't want this to be the Blacklist post.
Sep 24th 2013
10
      I know, but the post was sort of turning that way.
Sep 24th 2013
13
           Why dramas don't exist on Network TV is a more worthwhile
Sep 24th 2013
16
                I don't think expanding the post's subject line is tightening the reins.
Sep 24th 2013
19
I actually enjoyed The Blacklist, mainly because of Spader
Sep 24th 2013
9
I want to know an example of strict realism on non-premium TV.
Sep 24th 2013
14
Hill Street Blues, Early Law & Order and E&R
Sep 24th 2013
17
      Hasn't it been like twenty years then? That's not a coincidence.
Sep 24th 2013
18
           ^^^
Sep 24th 2013
20
           Not conflicting statements. You've said the same thing I stated.
Sep 24th 2013
21
                Fair enough. I thought Sleepy Hollow and The Blacklist had great pilots.
Sep 24th 2013
26
                     RE: Fair enough. I thought Sleepy Hollow and The Blacklist had great pil...
Sep 24th 2013
38
I understand what you are saying and usually willing to overlook most
Sep 24th 2013
22
      But I thought in the "This season... on The Blacklist" promo at the end
Sep 24th 2013
24
Blacklist was hot.
Sep 24th 2013
12
what struck me about The Blacklist
Sep 24th 2013
23
RE: what struck me about The Blacklist
Sep 24th 2013
36
      but the shit works tho so... (link)
Sep 25th 2013
44
           RE: but the shit works tho so... (link)
Sep 25th 2013
46
spader works...
Sep 24th 2013
27
RE: spader works...
Sep 24th 2013
29
      ironside was foolish...
Sep 24th 2013
31
save for James Spader, Lennix and Diego Klattenhoff
Sep 24th 2013
34
Well SHIT, tell us how you REALLY feel about Megan Boone, lol
Sep 25th 2013
42
RE: Well SHIT, tell us how you REALLY feel about Megan Boone, lol
Sep 25th 2013
45
      wait ..wha?
Sep 30th 2013
47
           RE: wait ..wha?
Sep 30th 2013
48
she's not a good actress.
Sep 25th 2013
43
she is a horrible actress nm
Oct 01st 2013
49
Megan Boone is AWFUL
Dec 04th 2013
69
The Blacklist get a full season order
Oct 05th 2013
50
Tonight was great. Best of the season by a mile.
Oct 15th 2013
51
RE: Tonight was great. Best of the season by a mile.
Oct 15th 2013
52
I was about to say it's like Silence of the Lambs meets 24 ....
Oct 29th 2013
53
RE: Original question
Oct 29th 2013
54
another solid ep...
Oct 29th 2013
55
this aspect is so pathetic, i'm almost mad if he IS
Oct 29th 2013
56
      i don't think he's her father
Oct 30th 2013
57
           Right, I also doubt he's the father.
Oct 30th 2013
58
           it's bizarre that the FBI didn't immediately do a genetic test
Oct 30th 2013
59
           after re-watching the ep this morning...
Oct 30th 2013
60
Is this The Blacklist thread now?
Nov 27th 2013
61
RE: Is this The Blacklist thread now?
Nov 28th 2013
62
RE: The Blacklist / Network Drama discussion
Dec 03rd 2013
63
Welp, the father question is answered! Kind of!
Dec 03rd 2013
64
Very good episode but I still believe Red is her dad
Dec 03rd 2013
65
i liked this ep *spoilers*
Dec 03rd 2013
66
Early Season 2 Renewal
Dec 04th 2013
68
This show needs less dialog
Dec 04th 2013
70
LOL i hated that scene for that very reason....
Dec 04th 2013
71
Reddington ain't no joke
Jan 13th 2014
72
Reddington racked up a body count
Jan 13th 2014
73
I'm over Lizzie's husband.
Jan 20th 2014
74
i don't care at all about her marraige
Jan 21st 2014
75
Exact same thought I had
Jan 21st 2014
77
I really wanted the big reveal at this ep's end to be...
Jan 21st 2014
76
      That definitely would have been more interesting
Jan 21st 2014
78
      this show and SHIELD are alot alike
Jan 22nd 2014
79
The Hollywood Reporter update on some freshman shows
Feb 10th 2014
80
This last episode and the tail end of the previous stepped it up
Mar 19th 2014
81
omg this last episode was crazy!
Mar 20th 2014
82
shit was real last night
Mar 26th 2014
83
Wow. I thought that episode sucked
Mar 26th 2014
84
      Get out of my head!!!
Mar 26th 2014
85
           a few points
Apr 01st 2014
86
                RE: a few points
Apr 02nd 2014
88
Worst use of pop music in a show
Apr 02nd 2014
87
Post-Super Bowl slot and (eventual) move to Thursday for season 2
May 11th 2014
89
RE: Post-Super Bowl slot and (eventual) move to Thursday for season 2
May 11th 2014
90
So the father thing seems pretty clear cut at this point. (Spoilers)
May 13th 2014
91
RE: So the father thing seems pretty clear cut at this point. (Spoilers)
May 14th 2014
92
Basically.
May 14th 2014
93
I see it differently, Red's wording is very specific
May 19th 2014
94
well all this speculation fell apart
May 15th 2015
96
Awesome Season Finale.
May 14th 2015
95
I'd be curious to know how long that had all this in mind
May 19th 2015
97

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