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A paradigm shift doesn't require no big budget movies ever.

A paradigm shift only requires a major shift in the proportion
and type of movies in budget classes.


>1. 130 mil isn't really a mega-budget nowadays.

That you say this is Spielberg's point. Yes, that is
a big budget. You don't think its big budget because
Hollywood spends it too often on shitty movies that don't
make very much money.

You argue against yourself eve more below...


>Only one of
>those films had a 200+ production budget-- The Lone Ranger.

A shitty, expensive movie with questionable name recognition.

Just like After Earth, Pacific Rim RIPD and all the other flopfests
that probably won't get made in the future as often (which constitutes
a paradigm shift)

>2. There are big budget bombs every year. None of them have
>ever been paradigm-shifting. Becaaaaause...
>
>3. ... the mega-budget films that are huge successes, the
>smaller budget films that make big profit, and the general
>nature of the corporate world (co-financing, other sources of
>income, etc) help balance out the losses on these bombs.

The films that are big successes are mostly comic movies with
name recognition; they are safe bets to make cash. Look at 'Man
of Steel' -- there was zero way for that movie to make less than
200 million at the Box office.

For the paradigm to shift, all that needs to change is that
non-comic big budget movies disappear; all that would remain
are comic movies and smaller budget good movies. If the RIPDs
don't see the light of day, that would constitute a paradigm
shift.

>Columbia had After Earth and White House Down under its
>umbrella... but it came on the heels of The Amazing
>Spider-Man, Skyfall, Zero Dark Thirty, and Django. Disney lost
>HUGE on Lone Ranger, but it had Oz, Iron Man 3, and Monsters
>U. Warner Brothers needs a hit, but TDKR and Man of Steel
>help, and I don't know what they get for distributing The
>Hobbit, but that made over a billion internationally.

You just made Spielberg's argument:

Spiderman is Spiderman, Skyfall is Bond. ZDT was very
small budget, which kinda makes his point.

The Hobbit is the Hobbit, Iron Man is Iron Man. Monsters
is animated, which is a different conversation (those seem
to do pretty well)

But these shitty experimental mega movies? Nah, they are on
the way out.

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Slate article: Summer 2013 flops and Spielberg's prediction [View all] , c71, Thu Jul-25-13 01:54 PM
 
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Terrible article for a number of reasons.
Jul 25th 2013
1
Not to mention, with the exception of PACIFIC RIM*....
Jul 25th 2013
2
yeah...Spielberg is an idiot
Jul 25th 2013
3
I didn't want to take it there, however..........
Jul 25th 2013
4
I didn't think anyone in here was discrediting Stevie Spiels....
Jul 25th 2013
5
RE: I didn't think anyone in here was discrediting Stevie Spiels....
Jul 25th 2013
6
      The writer was saying this year was an example
Jul 25th 2013
7
      This is exactly right.
Jul 26th 2013
9
      I can't speak for Frank, but on what I said....
Jul 25th 2013
8
      That is absolutely what I am asserting.
Jul 26th 2013
11
If THAT is what you got from my reply? lol
Jul 26th 2013
10
RE: If THAT is what you got from my reply? lol
Jul 26th 2013
12
difference between an artist and an art dealer
Jul 26th 2013
13
      I'd argue against that last point.
Jul 27th 2013
15
           Pacific Rim 2 is gonna suck without Idris Elba
Aug 06th 2013
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