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16. "The Wordman explains why Ray Liotta is a GREAT actor"
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When it comes to modern actors, particularly modern American actors who were not part of the '90s American Indie scene, you unfortunately have to throw out filmography as a measure of talent. Trust, no one is more upset about that fact than me, but it is a fact. You just can't blame today's American actor for the lack of quality material.
Now, to speak on WHY Ray Liotta is a GREAT actor. Again, bullet point style.
*Ray does not put "acting" in front of "story." Ray works to the benefit of the story. Assisting in film is not the same as assisting in sports. It's not an act of deference. It's a show of talent. This is why he seems to be great in great movies, good in good movies, and "okay" in everything else. He doesn't play "bigger than the frame" - like Marlon Brando during the "I don't care" phase of his career. He doesn't "phone it in" - like Robert De Niro in pretty much everything since the '80s. He commits to what he plays, and what he's playing is a person in a certain world. You can't know how priceless such a gift is.
*He makes other actors look good by making it look like the other actor is making the choices in the scene. He's one of the best invisible back-leaders ever, especially considering how big a name he is.
*He is utterly believable, in everything. Find me 2 minutes where you don't believe him in a film.
*He has an uncommon gift for "letting the passenger drive" in the middle of a scene. I should probably explain what that means. In every scene - okay, for argument's sake, in just about every scene - he can be playing the character who is "driving" the scene, or the character who has the big moment in the scene ("driving" and "having the big moment" are not the same thing), and then MID-SCENE let the other actor take over. It's a tonal shift that's almost impossible to pull off - like switching seats with the passenger in a car WHILE DRIVING. Yet Liotta can do this with such ease you really believe the other guy in the scene is running things. There are great actors today who can do this (Tom Hanks and Denzel Washington come to mind), but Liotta's technique is more subtle.
*He's an "inside-out" actor who is concerned with "the outside." Yeah, he pretty much has the same face in every movie (something that arguably can't be helped), but the external stuff (his stance in FIELD OF DREAMS, the goatee in NARC, everything he does in YOUTH IN REVOLT) he does is GOLDEN.
*He's one of the few modern actors who can deliver a monologue. You have no idea how tough that is, especially for film actors. Liotta can deliver 2, 3 minutes of uninterrupted lines without the audience being aware that they're listening to a monologue. He doesn't do it often (it's a technique many filmmakers are scared to attempt, out of fear that the actor can't pull it off), he's got the kind of face that "says more than words," but look at some of the scenes in CORRINA, CORRINA or his scenes with Johnny Depp in BLOW.
*He can play intensity in degrees. I should explain what that means. Take Shia Lebouf for example (I apologize to PTP and Pelikula, the goddess of all things cinematic, for mentioning his name in a discussion on acting). Ask Shia to play "intense within a series of intense scenes" and you'll get a flat performance - you'll get Shia doing his one "intense-face" the entire time. Ask Ray Liotta to play "intense within a series of intense scenes" and you get this wonderful performance full of depth and nuance. Watch NARC, he never plays the same kind of angry twice; or for an even better example, watch CORRINA, CORRINA and see just how many different shades of frustrated he plays. He plays to the shade of the adjective, not merely the adjective.
*He's an actor who can choose to "act a cat out the room" at will. It's one of the reasons you don't see him in movies with other big name "acting" stars. If Al Pacino is having an off day, or Anthony Hopkins just isn't up to it, you will see it if they're in a scene with Ray Liotta. Remember that song "Big Pimpin'" by Jay-Z? Remember how Bun B "murdered Jay on his own shit"? Yeah, that's the kind of level Ray Liotta can bring. He does a good job of downplaying this fact (see my first two points), but he's an actor who can do it.
*He's had about 3 decades of acting work, and he hasn't started phoning it in. I dare you to name me another modern actor who can claim such a distinction.

Ask for examples if need be, but that should explain it.

I do it for the people.
Wordman


"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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Is Ray Liotta A "Great" Actor? [View all] , Buddy_Gilapagos, Tue Jan-17-12 10:16 AM
 
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He's outstanding in Narc.
Jan 17th 2012
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^^^^^^^^^^
Jan 17th 2012
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^^^^Non-fiction
Jan 17th 2012
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Ray Liotta was in Citizen Kane?
Jan 17th 2012
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I hedged.
Jan 17th 2012
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      RE: I hedged.
Jan 17th 2012
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      i think the coen brothers could get some of the old heads back
Jan 21st 2012
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Nope
Jan 17th 2012
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If consistency was the standard, you couldn't consider a lot of folk
Jan 17th 2012
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      All of those guys were pretty consistent in their primes
Jan 17th 2012
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      "Consistent in their primes" is the whole point!
Jan 18th 2012
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           point is they had primes
Jan 18th 2012
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                This
Jan 18th 2012
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                Ray's been consistent throughout his career
Jan 18th 2012
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      Brando ain't Italian & those guys had decade-plus long runs
Jan 17th 2012
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Absolutely. Even in shit movies, he still does amazing work
Jan 17th 2012
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Is this a situation of putting up numbers on a shitty team though?
Jan 17th 2012
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      I think part of this....
Jan 17th 2012
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      GAWD DAMN @ the Katy Perry Bikini Photos
Jan 17th 2012
12
      are we talking ACTING or THE MOVIES HE'S IN?
Jan 18th 2012
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Watch Something Wild, if you haven't seen it yet. His 2nd best perf.
Jan 17th 2012
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You've articulated what I was thinking. Thanks.
Jan 18th 2012
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POAST END POAST RIGHT HERE
Jan 18th 2012
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Well, allow me to offer a counterpoint.
Jan 19th 2012
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      Andre Dawson isn't less of a player just 'cause he's on the Cubs
Jan 19th 2012
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           Forgetting the basics? Dude, I coach acting for a living, lol.
Jan 19th 2012
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                ^^ Agreed. That's what I was trying to get at above...n/m
Jan 19th 2012
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                RE: Forgetting the basics? Dude, I coach acting for a living, lol.
Jan 19th 2012
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                     In general, that's how I feel about evaluating actors & actresses
Jan 19th 2012
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                          But here's my question then:
Jan 19th 2012
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                               Wordman's "off the top" criteria:
Jan 19th 2012
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                               I think everyone in movies should have most of these:
Jan 19th 2012
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                                    RE: I think everyone in movies should have most of these:
Jan 20th 2012
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                                         This conversation is fascinating.
Jan 21st 2012
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                                              Interesting epilogue
Jan 22nd 2012
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                               RE: But here's my question then:
Jan 19th 2012
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                                    Fair enough.
Jan 19th 2012
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                                         I got to side with Wordup, Franky Baby
Jan 20th 2012
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Great? No. Underrated? Most definitely.
Jan 18th 2012
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I didn't even like him in Goodfellas
Jan 18th 2012
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^^^lives across the street from Karen
Jan 18th 2012
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      HA!
Jan 18th 2012
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      LMAO
Jan 19th 2012
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      Lol. My, My, My, what a wonderful witty reply
Jan 19th 2012
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      ha!
Jan 19th 2012
34
      Hilarious
Jan 19th 2012
35
      ladies and gentleman, we have a winner.
Jan 20th 2012
44
      well played
Jan 21st 2012
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      well played
Jan 21st 2012
47
      THAT... was some high quality snarkage.
Jan 21st 2012
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      *dead*
May 26th 2022
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RE: No, No, No
Jan 27th 2012
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You'll read a lot of think pieces, but Wordman
May 26th 2022
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Wordman deserves to make the RIP post for Ray Liotta
May 26th 2022
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lol and I clearly hadn't yet seen Something Wild
May 26th 2022
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      I almost mentioned you by name to see if you had changed your vote.
May 31st 2022
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           I mean, I don't *disagree* with what I said up there, technically...
May 31st 2022
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I had to check the dates on the earlier posts
May 27th 2022
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Goodfellas isn’t even the top mob movie of all time,
May 27th 2022
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lol
May 31st 2022
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      Joker really did come in here to mention Gone with the Wind as a better
Jun 07th 2022
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I wouldn't put him above John Cusack, and Steve Martin's Hill>>>>>>>
May 31st 2022
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Great tribute from Scorsese (Swipe)
Jun 07th 2022
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He took a lotta shit roles later on for the $$$.
Jun 10th 2022
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