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38. "I've seen them both, though they clearly aren't widely seen"
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Praying with Anger was a fine debut film. And Wide Awake was decent, much better than Lady in the Water. Regardless of whether you or anyone else you know saw them, they exist.

Nobody talks about them because once he did Sixth Sense, people only wanted to talk about twist endings.

That, and because people lazily repeat that Sixth Sense was his first film. Whether people talk about them or not, Sixth Sense was not his first film. Perpetuating that falsehood only contributed, initially, to this wunderkind mythology that people had built up around him, and now only feeds the hate because he'll never again achieve the level of Sixth Sense.

I've always remained a fan of his, even though I really, really hated The Village and Lady in the Water and was mildly disappointed with Signs, because I knew based on his earliest work that he was capable of doing a lot more than just twist endings and overblown hype. People who discount his earliest work are more likely to think he was just a one-trick pony who is deserving of "downward trajectory" discussion threads.

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Is M. Night's career on a steady downward slope? [View all] , McDeezNuts, Tue Jul-08-08 09:28 AM
 
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Hes yet to not make his budget back & then some sooooooooooo
Jul 08th 2008
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There's no doubt he's successful.
Jul 08th 2008
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      Your list doesnt fall in line with your thinking
Jul 08th 2008
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           I noted The Village as an exception...
Jul 08th 2008
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                His first movie is an all time classic
Jul 08th 2008
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                     True, it's hard to top that.
Jul 08th 2008
                     Sixth Sense was his third movie.
Jul 08th 2008
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                          because nobody say his first two.
Jul 08th 2008
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                          his first two aren't that relevant
Jul 08th 2008
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                                    fair enough, but note what I said
Jul 08th 2008
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                                         yeah, but I was just addressing that topic
Jul 09th 2008
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As a director? No. As a writer? Hell to the fuck yes.
Jul 08th 2008
6
Great point. I hadn't even factored that in.
Jul 08th 2008
7
since he started working,every single day of manoj's life has been worse...
Jul 08th 2008
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lol
Jul 08th 2008
22
Nah, Tarantino's is though. In fact, QT is rock bottom.
Jul 08th 2008
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Show us on the doll where QT touched you. LOL
Jul 08th 2008
11
stick to the topic. this has nothing to do with anyone else.
Jul 08th 2008
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RE: stick to the topic. this has nothing to do with anyone else.
Jul 08th 2008
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FOH with the racial bullshit
Jul 09th 2008
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The Happening was probably his weakest movie
Jul 08th 2008
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cmon.
Jul 08th 2008
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nah man
Jul 08th 2008
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      RE: nah man
Jul 08th 2008
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           i swear people just REFUSE to see this:
Jul 08th 2008
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                i've never seen so many reviewers miss the boat entirely
Jul 08th 2008
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                she hate me was completely missed as well....
Jul 08th 2008
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                For the last time: people "got" what he tried to do. He just failed to
Jul 08th 2008
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                     .
Jul 08th 2008
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                     two points
Jul 08th 2008
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RE: Is M. Night's career on a steady downward slope?
Jul 08th 2008
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He is a great director
Jul 08th 2008
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these are great points
Jul 08th 2008
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He should be a director-for-hire
Jul 08th 2008
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manoj lost.
Jul 08th 2008
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lost what?
Jul 08th 2008
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      acclaim, prestige, respect, etc.
Jul 08th 2008
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           $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acclaim, prestige, respect, etc.
Jul 08th 2008
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                what about the actual quality of the art / work?
Jul 08th 2008
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                M Night
Jul 08th 2008
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                I think you've got your movies out of sequence
Jul 08th 2008
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                You R probably Right
Jul 09th 2008
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                L
Jul 08th 2008
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                Whens theres such a divide between love and hate
Jul 08th 2008
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                     Michael Bay >>>> Scorcese
Jul 08th 2008
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                     cool
Jul 09th 2008
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                     Michael Bay >>>> Scorcese
Jul 08th 2008
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                ... except that manoj wants those things
Jul 08th 2008
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RE: Is M. Night's career on a steady downward slope?
Jul 08th 2008
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He needs to quit writing immediately.
Jul 08th 2008
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The Village is the worst of them all. Yes, it is.
Jul 09th 2008
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Whats wrong with them changing the way they speak?
Jul 09th 2008
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yeah, I mean they changed everything else
Jul 09th 2008
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      But the other things are a necessity for living in the park.
Jul 09th 2008
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           When did you figure out the twist??
Jul 09th 2008
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                To me, it's clear after Will Hurt's monologue about...
Jul 09th 2008
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Absolutely not. The Village shits all over Lady in the Water.
Jul 09th 2008
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the numbers support you...
Jul 09th 2008
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