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37. "RE: henry gale"
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i just realized i was two episodes behind you guys... the last one i saw was the jack's appendix removal

anyway, the way i see lost is
- lots of REFERENCES to stuff, lots of stuff, but not necessarily anything more than nods
- lots of POTENTIALLY WACK explanations for plot happenings, which hopefully are red herrings

the whole Dharma thing - you could say Dharma were this all powerful organization capable of creating amazing monsters just to watch their backyard and conducting fascinating experiments... but, i mean, what the fuck happened to them. Dharma is obviously a sham to me... they're not the real force behind the island, they're just some people who happened upon it before Ben dispensed with them. all 'mysticism' and 'fate' explanations also smack of wackness - the explanation needs to be a decent science fiction idea.

now, in the Forbidden Planet, the loan survivor (except for his wife and daughter) wiped out his colleagues (fellow explorers) by accessing ancient alien technology that interfaced with his mind. one device boosted his IQ enormously, another device allowed him to fabricate things with his mind (though it was only his subconscious mind that was strong enough to create anything drastic). this sounds like Ben to me - not an a supervillain or anything, but very smart, knows many languages somehow, and has the overbearing confidence of everyone who knows him ("these people are going to war with Ben... and Ben's going to win").

and another thing that just occurred to me, y'all know how the 'subconscious' thing all started with Sigmund Freud, right? and Freud's big thing was infant sexuality and the oepidus complex, that was his first conjecture about what the subconscious contains. well, i was thinking how all the mothers were dying (p.s. was it only baby girls who were a problem? cause that would fit perfectly with the electra complex) - i suspect it's due to the minds of the unconscious babies. that's why everyone thinks claire's baby is so special... like he's born without any evil in his subconscious... maybe he's some sort of potential jesus

>was the person ben claimed to be in the beginning, and that
>his hot air ballon from Minnesota was swept to the island ala
>the actual wizard in oz
>
>ben has the book in his library
>
>and a couple of the episode titles reference pulling back the
>'curtain' to see who is really behind it all...both locke and
>ben reference it
>
>all the survivors are akin to dorothy, they ain't in kansas
>any more
>
>zardoz is a play on wiZARDofOZ
>
>ben obviously has access to lots of materials, i mean the
>nigga speaks arabic and has like thirty passports he didnt
>know all that stuff when he came to the island as an 8yr old
>child
>
>i don't doubt that the heiros are old but they were on the
>door been opened....and he obviously summoned the smoke
>monster, he ran away while addressing keamy, 'hit the switch'
>(or whatever he did) and told everybody to stay on the
>treeline so as to not get bit by his attack dog -- the smoke
>monster
>
>in addition, if i recall juliette knew how to avoid being
>attacked by the smoke monster too
>
>when have u seen one of the others get attacked by the
>monster?
>
>the black rock pirate ship, where they got the dynamite from
>
>rousseau was a scientist/rescuer who came to the island
>pregnant, her lover and crew went crazy from the affects of
>the island and ben stole the baby from her
>
>ben has a fascination with babies and pregnancy, his mother
>died giving birth to him
>
>but like richard alpert said the others ain't on that shit,
>they have other work to do
>
>that whole ancient thing is getting dudes off track, there are
>only acient ruins on the island almost everything is fairly
>modern
>i'll check into the forbidden planet reference
>
>but the dharma experiments explain damn near all the odd shit
>goin on, alperts agelessness, the polar bears, magnetic waves
>
>and u cant discount the time travel piece cuz thats central to
>the whole show
>
>desmond and ben were mos def time travellin and i suspect that
>is why people cant be killed, thats why hugo and jack were
>sayin they have to go back....they realized they fucked things
>up by leaving, they may not even be in their own reality
>
>also suspect that michael is the one in the coffin that jack
>went to see...he's neither friend nor family, he was from ny
>and died in la in a black part of town....jack realized that
>if michael died then he can now die too so he was about to
>commit suicide when the car crash happened
>
>and u can rarely believe anything ben says....he has been
>bullshitting the others for years
>
>
>>i haven't seen the latest episode yet it's on tonight.
>>but the reason not everyone is being healed is because
>>everyone's subconscious is different. and you can't control
>>your subconscious like that.
>
>i dont buy that explanation on healing cuz locke didnt do
>anything special nor did rosa, no one else got healed
>
>how can whidmore and ben be brothers?
>if they are it has to do with reincarnation, cuz that's
>basically what richard tested locke for, just like they do
>with the dhali llamas, if the kid picks the items owned by the
>recently deceased llama he becomes the incarnate
>
>which brings me to the spirits flying around and why everyone
>is fighting over this damn island
>
>looking for hosts: this could explain christian shepherd's
>appearance, cuz if jacob is so powerful why does he need
>help?
>
>some have said that ben has confined jacob to the cabin with
>some kind of circle of sand, the same sand locke found when he
>went there and the sand that was in the vial that alpert
>showed to young locke
>
>whidmore is rich already what does he want from the island, i
>suspect he wants longevity
>
>ben probably wants his mom resurrected or saved before she
>dies in childbirth
>
>the polar bears are a part of the dharma experiment...we
>havent seen any in a minute
>
>all ancient civilizations disappear that's why they're
>ancient, there's no mystery here
>
>the coincidences are the real question, everyone is connected
>in so many ways...the woman jack saved in the flash forward
>has the same last name as rosa's husband
>
>i equate the four-toed statue with colossus, one of the
>original seven wonders, i think it was built on some
>island...was supposed to have been ginormous but disappeared
>without a trace
>
>
>
>
>Never come between a black man and his hustle in a room full
>of white people

--------------------
Why do you choose to mimic these wack MCs?
Why do you choose to listen to R&B?

"There are obviously many things which we do not understand, and may never be able to." Leela

*puts emceeing in a box*

  

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LOST theories [View all] , paragon216, Sat May-10-08 05:20 PM
 
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Answers:
May 10th 2008
1
RE: Answers:
May 10th 2008
4
      Answers:
May 10th 2008
5
           claire ain't dead, that is unsubstantiated
May 10th 2008
6
                Saying she's alive is also unsubstantiated.
May 10th 2008
7
                     she woke up to find her dad holding aaron
May 10th 2008
8
                          Did she?
May 10th 2008
9
                               so she gets killed
May 10th 2008
10
                                    No.
May 10th 2008
11
                                         funny swipe
May 10th 2008
14
                                              ok now i believe she's dead lol n.m
May 12th 2008
43
                                                  
May 12th 2008
47
what did jack do for the island to make him sick?
May 10th 2008
2
Trying to leave.
May 10th 2008
3
      yes this makes sense
May 12th 2008
51
why cant ben kill widmore?
May 10th 2008
12
ohhh, the island wont let them kill each other
May 10th 2008
15
      about shooting locke
May 10th 2008
17
who raised locke?
May 10th 2008
13
um...why not??
May 10th 2008
24
looking into it
May 11th 2008
27
Foster homes
May 11th 2008
35
locke's knife is going to be pivotal
May 10th 2008
16
u go out into the australian outback...
May 10th 2008
22
      Locke's not a hunter
May 13th 2008
60
           yeah
May 14th 2008
63
ben says he's not always the leader
May 10th 2008
18
he said he wasn't ALWAYS the leader
May 10th 2008
25
why does widmore wanna torch the island?
May 10th 2008
19
mystery tales
May 10th 2008
20
what are the consequences to being chosen?
May 10th 2008
21
THE GREAT GEDANKEN EXPERIMENT, A TALE OF TIME TRAVEL AND SCHRODINGER'S C...
May 10th 2008
23
it's obviously based on The Forbidden Planet and The Tempest
May 11th 2008
26
they take bits from everything
May 11th 2008
28
RE: they take bits from everything
May 11th 2008
31
      henry gale
May 11th 2008
33
          
                The Invention of Morel
May 11th 2008
38
one of the dharma sites was called the tempest
May 11th 2008
30
dude, the monster has been explained
May 11th 2008
39
      Cerberus
May 11th 2008
40
           ok but that doesn't explain what it actually IS
May 12th 2008
41
           the island is obviously not working properly
May 12th 2008
42
           I thought this was a theory and not proved yet
May 12th 2008
44
                the producer
May 12th 2008
46
                     I don't know how you all remember all these things
May 12th 2008
53
                          its written on the blast wall hologram thing
May 12th 2008
55
hanso foundation
May 11th 2008
29
Hans O(ersted) father of electromagnetism
May 12th 2008
45
      i can buy some of that
May 12th 2008
48
           i don't buy that either
May 12th 2008
49
is there an amelia earhart connection?
May 11th 2008
32
Brother themes
May 11th 2008
34
namesakes
May 11th 2008
36
What's up with Miles when he was in the dead grandson's room?
May 12th 2008
50
WHOA
May 12th 2008
54
      whoa is right
May 12th 2008
56
           i watched it again
May 14th 2008
62
NEW SHIT
May 12th 2008
52
mathew abbadon
May 12th 2008
57
WALT shit gets deep
May 12th 2008
58
the Walt aspect is interesting, but you don't believe the Frogurt angle ...
May 13th 2008
59
      negative on the frogurt
May 14th 2008
61
           I don't think he actually dies...
May 14th 2008
64
                we know that two die
May 14th 2008
65
                     I don't want Locke to die
May 14th 2008
66
                          if I've learned ANYTHING, it's not to believe what I see, lol...
May 14th 2008
67
                          that's what jack testified to
May 14th 2008
68
                               on second thought
May 14th 2008
69

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