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jazzruckus
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30. "Really? Really really?"
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I think it's overly harsh to say C-. I also think it's fair to ask what your F, C, and A+ is, so we all know what you're standards are.

I think it deserves an A.

Think back to the way, say, the first hour is cut. The past develops with the present. It's quick, tight--the film rushes you. But what makes it brilliant is the juxtaposition. Why has he jumped from the past to the present now? Now why has he gone back? Like other people have said, you catch smaller emotional and plot arcs with repeat viewings, and end up seeing how carefully (and I think successfully) DiCaprio's character is crafted. And in the the end that what makes him meaningful and resonant. I think the film is built on the first hour or so and, it doesn't coast, but it has enough momentum from that first hour to blast to the finish.

Marky Mark may be a bit too funny for his own good, but it's almost like the Jesus effect in Big Lebowski. An essentially minor character has only quality lines. Like it's all golden. I'm not saying that Marky is Jesus, but maybe you can see that good line after good line will eventually push someone over the top. Which taints it a bit, but I still think the character is great cinema.

I do agree that Jack is a bit hammy. And the love story is brief (and her accent comes and goes like the bus). But in my opinion the film is about DiCaprio. The characters, the setting, the dialog--it's all a buttress for getting inside Leo's head. Which it does a fantastic job of doing.

Clown away at me, but I also got a lot out of the new Harry Potter book from watching the Departed.

***spoiler***

Man, Severus is basically the same character as DiCaprio. I finished the book and then all of the sudden Severus came alive. Rowling did an ok job with his little flashbacks, but you want to understand Severus's pain, longing, his nerves of steel, feelings of alienation. I think the Departed accidentally fleshes out Severus Snape, and inadvertently turned JK Rowling into an author with real depth. Because we can really see what one of her hidden but lynchpin characters were really about.

Regardless, I still think the Departed was fucking ace.

  

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Late Pass: 'The Departed' was a C-plus film at best. [View all] , Orbit_Established, Mon Aug-20-07 12:55 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
^^must be on his period
Aug 20th 2007
1
Cornier: That line in the movie, or that line in your post?
Aug 20th 2007
6
      ^^^^needs to switch to tampons
Aug 21st 2007
52
Watch it again
Aug 20th 2007
2
Decaprio's stature rose
Aug 20th 2007
3
Decap's best performance imo.
Aug 20th 2007
5
Personally, Blood Diamond did it for me.
Aug 20th 2007
19
basically
Aug 20th 2007
4
I disagree. I personally loved it. But to each his own.
Aug 20th 2007
7
You may have a point. Total retred of Goodfellas
Aug 20th 2007
8
Don't disrespect 'Goodfellas' by saying that.
Aug 20th 2007
18
      Goodfellas is a modern classic IMO.
Aug 20th 2007
35
A-
Aug 20th 2007
9
I slightly disagree...C+
Aug 20th 2007
10
Definitely Mediocre
Aug 20th 2007
11
saw it for like the 5th time last week
Aug 20th 2007
12
RE: Disagree
Aug 20th 2007
13
I loved it.
Aug 20th 2007
14
ye twas my feeling too. wasn't anything special
Aug 20th 2007
15
^^^the other guy
Aug 20th 2007
16
lol
Aug 20th 2007
25
now you really fucked up dude....................
Aug 20th 2007
17
Another thought: 'The Departed' = Oceans 11-13
Aug 20th 2007
20
I disagree here...
Aug 20th 2007
22
Agree with this
Aug 25th 2007
58
but the movie doesn't take itself seriously at all
Aug 20th 2007
23
      That's some pretty lame excuse-making if I ever seen it.
Aug 20th 2007
24
           RE: That's some pretty lame excuse-making if I ever seen it.
Aug 20th 2007
27
                You smoking PCP-laced Latte, homie.
Aug 20th 2007
28
                     why can't it be both?
Aug 20th 2007
32
A- without a doubt
Aug 20th 2007
21
it was good because of baldwin...no baldwin, i'd prolly hate it
Aug 20th 2007
26
Baldwin was the best thing in there for me
Aug 21st 2007
42
Infernal Affairs was better IMO
Aug 20th 2007
29
^^^The way to get O_E to Log off Forever
Aug 20th 2007
31
      lmfao n/m
Aug 20th 2007
33
      G.D. is the final frontier for O_E
Aug 20th 2007
34
      RE: ^^^The way to get O_E to Log off Forever
Aug 20th 2007
37
      a-plus reply.
Aug 21st 2007
47
RE: Late Pass: 'The Departed' was a C-plus film at best.
Aug 20th 2007
36
thorougly mediocre flick
Aug 20th 2007
38
ugh, DiCaprio sucked in Gangs of New York & couldn't hold that accent
Aug 21st 2007
41
it was good. but infernal affairs was better.
Aug 20th 2007
39
I'd say B+
Aug 20th 2007
40
c'mon and take that plus off
Aug 21st 2007
43
      Explain why a B and not a B+
Aug 22nd 2007
55
           Too long. The female therpist character was weak.
Aug 22nd 2007
56
b
Aug 21st 2007
44
it's a good movie...but definitely overrated...
Aug 21st 2007
45
damn...I thought it was just me...was just 'okay'...
Aug 21st 2007
46
cmon man, nobody said the departed was 'groundbreaking'
Aug 21st 2007
48
I give it a B...maybe a B+ if I forget the crappy editing.
Aug 21st 2007
49
you're a c-plus film at best
Aug 21st 2007
50
SOMEBODY ELSE FINALLY REALIZES THIS...
Aug 21st 2007
51
yeah, there is a small handful of poor, unenlightened souls
Aug 21st 2007
53
This is a D minus post.
Aug 21st 2007
54
THAT WAS THE WORST MOVIE EVER
Aug 25th 2007
57
Bobby
Aug 26th 2007
59
if Studio 60 were a movie, it would have shat on The Departed
Aug 26th 2007
60
Brokeback? *rimshot*
Aug 26th 2007
61
not enough, and not big enough
Aug 26th 2007
64
Diary of a Mad Black Woman.
Aug 26th 2007
63
Be Cool
Aug 26th 2007
65
Correction: I have thought of a movie that sucks more than The Departed
Aug 27th 2007
66
      You should keep a copy of 'Eyes Wide Shut' nearby.
Aug 28th 2007
69
Using that metric, you are a U- poster
Aug 26th 2007
62
solid B+
Aug 27th 2007
67
You're lying and you know it
Aug 27th 2007
68
Uh. Just seen 'Casino' again, an actual good movie.
Aug 28th 2007
70
just saw it last nite & came to post this. @@/@@@@
Aug 28th 2007
71
^^^^WOOOOW SPOT FUCKIN ON!!!!!^^^^^
Aug 28th 2007
72
      RE: ^^^^WOOOOW SPOT FUCKIN ON!!!!!^^^^^
Aug 28th 2007
74
      LOL @ scorcese shootin closeups of martin sheens jacket pocket
Aug 29th 2007
78
           the pockets were like, symbolic, man
Aug 29th 2007
79
Just saw it last night... A-
Aug 28th 2007
73
Saw it again. It sucked worse the second time.
Aug 29th 2007
76
i loved it
Aug 28th 2007
75
Not terrible, but far from great, & makes the original even better
Aug 29th 2007
77

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