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jane eyre
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52. "mmm. maybe."
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Tue Jun-19-07 12:37 PM by jane eyre

          

there's an element of fantasy-make-believe in the madea series. the audience has to make a leap into madea world in order for things to be plausible. certain rules (ex: attractive men) are in play when it comes to madea world and as a viewer, you either accept them or you don't. obviously, madea world isn't real life. you've pointed out a few reasons why it's not reality. i think everyone understands that it's not real life, even if only on a subconscious level. i don't think that the fantastic elements of the stories make the instructive value of them idealistic.

>All three of his films were surrounding a love story, the man
>involved is always perfect in any way.

i wouldn't go that far. i'd say that the men in the romantic roles aren't perfect in every way, but in the ways that count. they apparently have an interest in treating women with respect.

instructive: recognize the bad. recognize the good.
instructive: bad "acts" this way. good "acts" this way.
instructive: people can choose bad or good.
instructive: are you choosing bad or good?
instructive: choose good.

the goodness of the male characters has nothing to do with their looks and everything to do with their actions. the bad male characters aren't exactly ugly, either. the attractive male phenomena is part of what happens in madea world. it's a device...but it's also another chance to instruct: appearances can be deceiving so it's important to be able to recognize good and bad.

grant it, maybe there are some women who may come away from the films believing that there's a connection between a guy's ability to show goodness with their money and looks. maybe the stories encourage shallow mating preferences and unreasonable amounts of wish-fulfillment and lots of trouble for the guy who ends up dating a black woman with such silly ideas filling her head. maybe. but there doesn't seem to be anything in the films to suggest that women should focus their energies on finding a man who's hot or rich/hot and rich. in fact, some of the women in the stories who use the "sexy w/ a bank account" screening method end up being quite unhappy.

at any rate, i don't think it's an idealistic viewpoint that women should protect themselves and learn how to choose mates who demonstrate good qualities. is the lesson presented in a hokey, corny, manner? yes.

>Shemar Moore, Boris
>Kudjoe and Idris Elba were all blue collar workers with a
>heart of gold and near the end the woman gets a brain and
>decides to deal with the dude who in real life wouldn't get
>play from the women that support the film.

then maybe people aren't getting the moral of the story!

but then again, maybe it's the second rate presentation that makes the moral of the story un-seeable and easily misunderstood.

>Its a Sesame Street
>lesson for grown black women and Madea is Big Bird.

the simplicity/transparency of the story lines don't bother me. children don't always get solid moral instruction and they grow up to become adults who make decisions without the benefit of it. simplicity is a very effective way to build up people's confidence with the basics. what bothers me is that the storylines are developed in a way that makes any kind of message seem trite.

  

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break down Tyler Perry movies for me in here [View all] , Doc Maestro, Thu Jun-14-07 03:42 AM
 
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He's an awful writer who should never be allowed near a keyboard again.
Jun 14th 2007
1
oddly enough you were the catalyst for this post (in the bad boys 2 one)
Jun 14th 2007
2
But his movies are "real!"
Jun 14th 2007
5
But you haven't seen his movies.
Jun 14th 2007
3
      Wrong.
Jun 14th 2007
4
           1 out of 3.
Jun 16th 2007
11
                Does that make him suck any less hard?
Jun 16th 2007
13
                     No, but....
Jun 17th 2007
27
                          You clearly don't know me very well.
Jun 17th 2007
32
Well
Jun 14th 2007
6
The formula's not that hard to figure out
Jun 14th 2007
7
si oui yes. emotional. tragic black women are being exploited by perry
Jun 14th 2007
8
      If you don't like Tyler Perry
Jun 14th 2007
9
           1st of all: If you think his movies are...
Jun 16th 2007
10
here's a fair breakdown
Jun 16th 2007
12
Yeah, if quality doesn't matter to you.
Jun 16th 2007
14
      lol
Jun 16th 2007
16
      look, bitchmade nigga, i don't like his movies...
Jun 17th 2007
17
           Name calling doesn't make you any less wrong you child.
Jun 17th 2007
19
                you mad and he paid
Jun 17th 2007
30
                     Not angry, Bags. Just critical.
Jun 17th 2007
31
                          look, man, it's your opinion...good luck with your hate
Jun 17th 2007
34
                               It's not hate. It's dislike for his work.
Jun 17th 2007
35
                                    obviously, i don't think he's above criticism, having ripped him.
Jun 17th 2007
36
                                         so basically... you agree with bignick but you just HAD to be contrary?
Jun 18th 2007
44
                                              i wasn't being contrary...i correctly stated that nick goes extra at tyl...
Jun 18th 2007
48
                                                   You didn't correctly state anything.
Jun 19th 2007
50
                                                        the difference between your criticism of perry and smith...
Jun 19th 2007
51
                                                             You're still wrong. I ripped Clerks 2 & Crash as much as any TP movie.
Jun 19th 2007
53
                                                                  by the numbers, i ain't wrong
Jun 19th 2007
54
                                                                       No. You're wrong.
Jun 21st 2007
58
                                                                            you've hated on perry more than anyone or anything else
Jun 21st 2007
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                                                                                 Nope. Stll wrong.
Jun 21st 2007
60
                                                                                      it's true this week, is true this month and it's true for this year so ...
Jun 21st 2007
61
RE: break down Tyler Perry movies for me in here
Jun 16th 2007
15
i'll break it down, but i know yall don't wait it...
Jun 17th 2007
18
"DEEZE NIGGAZ AIN'T REAL, DAWG!" <--Torez, you're smarter than this.
Jun 17th 2007
21
:::: rolls eyes :::
Jun 17th 2007
28
^^ Painting with broad brush strokes
Jun 17th 2007
41
^^^Harlequin film snob^^^
Jun 17th 2007
33
      *sips latte*
Jun 17th 2007
39
           I can't hear you over the new Paul McCartney album.
Jun 17th 2007
40
                *downloads Paul McCartney album onto the hip new iPhone*
Jun 17th 2007
42
i like this reply
Jun 17th 2007
38
my question is...
Jun 17th 2007
20
he does...
Jun 17th 2007
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Why wouldn't a studio finance his movies? They make a shitload of $
Jun 21st 2007
62
My tongue bleeds whenever he has a new project. . .
Jun 17th 2007
22
^^ CANCEL HER JET MAGAZINE SUBSCRIPTION
Jun 17th 2007
24
as bad as i want these movies to be
Jun 17th 2007
25
Dude who was talking about his "appeal" is right.
Jun 17th 2007
26
perfect analogy...
Jun 17th 2007
29
      RE: perfect analogy...
Jun 17th 2007
37
           No, but he did shit on the art of screenwriting.
Jun 18th 2007
45
                RE: No, but he did shit on the art of screenwriting.
Jun 18th 2007
47
only movie he made that was good was Fam.Reunion
Jun 18th 2007
43
RE: break down Tyler Perry movies for me in here
Jun 18th 2007
46
Tyler Perry makes films for black women with idealistic views on relatio...
Jun 19th 2007
49
     
           ...A well-thought and logical post?
Jun 19th 2007
55
           eh.
Jun 21st 2007
57
           ...A well-thought and logical post?
Jun 19th 2007
56

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