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39. "I loved it. I think Kushner is some kind of fuckin genius"
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Now, that said, I watched it knowing that others didn't like it so well. But I knew it was originally a stage play, and I watched it thinking about what my reaction would have been had I seen it on stage and regretting that I was such an idiot that I missed it when it was in the theatres (particularly because I skipped it on the theory that if it was that popular, it couldn't be that good). I think that Kushner writes for the stage and not the big screen, and I think this would not have worked in a movie theatre, so it was a good choice for HBO.

I've been trying to articulate the difference between writing for movies and writing for the stage recently, because of this, and I've found it very very difficult.

I think one thing is that the audience for a stage play is much more comfortable with the willful suspension of disbelief. We have conventions in movies that, if violated, will make a moviegoer say, oh no, that's not real. But that doesn't really happen on stage. And so Kushner's incredible writing sounds right to me on stage and in this film of the stage play (obviously not a film of a play but as far as I can tell, the script was totally unaltered -- the only real difference was the sets), but I doubt that he could write for movies.

Contra, David Mamet, whose writing seems to work in both mediums. It seems strange to me that this should be so; perhaps it's because Mamet is in fact the more surreal writer in the respect that when you look at the dialogue he writes it's nonsense and it only takes on meaning when you hear it chattered really fast? I don't know.

Have you seen Caroline or Change? That was seriously one of the five best theatrical experiences of. my. life.



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sorry sorry sorry I know others have asked this but [View all] , janey, Wed Feb-21-07 04:15 PM
 
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Remember when I axed you a question about Children of Men?
Feb 21st 2007
1
lol if you can provide me a link to earlier discussions
Feb 21st 2007
6
depends on how many movies you think you can/need to see per week
Feb 21st 2007
2
that makes sense but
Feb 21st 2007
7
      Try the 3 plan.
Feb 21st 2007
8
           I can't tell you how weird it is to watch movies at home
Feb 21st 2007
9
fuck dat
Feb 21st 2007
3
and so it begins...
Feb 21st 2007
4
I finally am putting my Blockbuster boycott into effect
Feb 21st 2007
5
      this is pretty fuckin funny.
Feb 21st 2007
17
Wifey & I are on the 3 flicks plan right now.....
Feb 21st 2007
10
I had the three at once plan during my free trial
Feb 21st 2007
11
I went up to the 5 plan
Feb 21st 2007
12
I'm on the three at a time unlimited.
Feb 21st 2007
13
Some public libraries charge only a $1 for each DVD
Feb 21st 2007
14
I can't tell you how much I wanted to support Greencine
Feb 21st 2007
15
      GC has 9 Mikkelsen movies
Feb 21st 2007
16
           oh I am such an idiot
Feb 21st 2007
18
                RE: oh I am such an idiot
Feb 21st 2007
21
                I haven't checked in awhile, either...
Feb 21st 2007
23
                lol...I was kinda wondering why you weren't going with GC.
Feb 21st 2007
22
                     what was the name of that Mikkelsen series again?
Feb 21st 2007
24
                          Pusher!
Feb 21st 2007
25
                          no, it has to be 1 or ALL says my operating manual
Feb 21st 2007
26
                          RE: no, it has to be 1 or ALL says my operating manual
Feb 21st 2007
29
                          Netflix has the whole thing
Feb 21st 2007
27
                               Cool!
Feb 21st 2007
28
                                    heh heh I have first dibs
Feb 21st 2007
30
                          wait, janey... you LIKE Pusher?
Feb 21st 2007
33
                               oh uhhhhh I mean
Feb 21st 2007
34
                               what interested you in the first place?
Feb 21st 2007
35
                               Two words: Mads Mikkelsen. n/m
Feb 21st 2007
36
                                    exactly. Similarly, WHY would janey want to see Casino Royale?
Feb 22nd 2007
40
                               Sorry, I missed this question.
Feb 23rd 2007
41
                                    my manual might as well be in uzbekestani for all I understand it
Feb 23rd 2007
42
                                         Hmm.
Feb 23rd 2007
43
                                              uhhhhhhhhh I'll check this weekend and let you know, lol
Feb 23rd 2007
44
                               RE: wait, janey... you LIKE Pusher?
Feb 21st 2007
37
Holy shit, it was be a blizzard in Hades right about now.
Feb 21st 2007
19
lol I know I know
Feb 21st 2007
20
      I'm having a minor aneurysm right now
Feb 21st 2007
31
      it's been coming on for a while
Feb 21st 2007
32
      Ooh! Ooh! Miss Janey! Miss Janey!
Feb 22nd 2007
38
          
I do unlimited 2 at a time
Feb 23rd 2007
45
that's counter intuitive
Feb 23rd 2007
46
      well, there is that
Feb 23rd 2007
47

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