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27. "Your points are incredibly valid, but I've still gotta say..."
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...it's still a masterpiece. I am in the minority when I say I didn't like Time Bandits at all (it's one of those films I think you had to see as a kid to really love...I didn't, so I don't). I say that because I find Gilliam fascinating and amazing, but not infallible. I think he's made 3 genuine masterpieces (Brazil, 12 Monkeys, Fear and Loathing) and another great film in The Fisher King...but he's certainly not beyond criticism (is anyone, really?)

That being said...you bring up great points. The story is thin, but I think when I first saw it (maybe 2 years ago) I was hooked when in the first minute or two there's a voiceover interview on TV with the Prime Minister and they say something along the lines of "You've been fighting this war for 10 years and clearly they're winning...what do you have to say?" and he says, "Beginner's luck!" - that, to me, is on some shit that's hilarious right now because...well, you know.

Anyway, the art direction in Brazil is beyond amazing. I LOVED the scenes in Sam's office with the desk being tugged back and forth, and the mob running through the Ministry of Information's facilities...brilliant in it's simplicity really. Almost the Office Space before Office Space, if you will. I know what you're thinking - "OH! Someone commenting on the monotony of office work! He's thinking what I'M thinking! How revolutionary!" - but really, it kind of was. He wasn't doing anything DIFFERENT but it was in a different way. Hell, The Apartment spoke on the monotony of office work...but Brazil was the first film (I've seen, anyway) to do it in the way that was parodied for years to come. The beauracracy, the lack of ambition, etc. Still relevant today.

The director's cut is great but it almost feels uneven in that certain things are just overexplained (love story) or underexplained (Robert DeNiro/Harry Tuttle). Much as I love the film...it's certainly uneven in many parts. I love Gilliam, but if he had his way, his films would have $400 million dollar budgets and 6 hour runtimes. His dream sequences, in both this and The Fisher King, are pretty ambitions but they are a little much in certain places.

I dunno, I like it...even if it goes against a lot of my general principles (longer than it needs to be, art over substance, thin story, etc.), but it's still a great film. I can't really explain it other than it's Gilliam.

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Okayplayer Movie Club: Brazil by Terry Gilliam [View all] , Frank Longo, Mon Dec-25-06 11:51 AM
 
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wens the deadline?
Dec 25th 2006
1
Brazil's in HD Thursday on UniversalHD
Dec 25th 2006
2
The HD version of this is like watching an ENTIRELY NEW FILM
Jan 01st 2007
28
Some HD screen captures here (link)
Jan 01st 2007
29
I will be discussing this one with ya'll.
Dec 25th 2006
3
This is in my Top 2 of favorite movies of all time
Dec 25th 2006
4
What's the 90 minute version like? I've only seen director's cut.
Dec 25th 2006
5
      A lot of the darker tones of the film are weakned quite a bit
Dec 26th 2006
9
okay... i'll gladly join in for this one
Dec 25th 2006
6
I can get down with this one. One of my all-time favorites...
Dec 26th 2006
7
Which cut? n/m
Dec 26th 2006
8
most overrated movie in the history of ever.
Dec 26th 2006
10
Care to explicate?
Dec 26th 2006
12
most overrated movie in the history of ever.
Dec 26th 2006
11
I really didn't care for this film
Dec 28th 2006
13
saw the director's cut...
Dec 28th 2006
14
DeNiro's most overlooked performance...
Dec 28th 2006
15
Overlooked? He was in one scene the whole movie
Dec 28th 2006
16
      you didn't even finish the movie!
Dec 28th 2006
17
           I didn't have to finish the movie to see that 4 minute scene.
Dec 29th 2006
21
                If you think Harry Tuttle's an insignificant role, you missed a LOT.
Dec 29th 2006
24
weird as fuck.. but good...
Dec 29th 2006
18
I like the direction more than I do the writing.
Dec 29th 2006
19
      I agree, there are a lot of memorable images in Brazil.
Dec 29th 2006
22
I want to like this film, but I don't get it
Dec 29th 2006
20
Okay, since no one else is talking, I'll retort the best that I can:
Dec 29th 2006
23
So okay, I read a lot of sci-fi in high school
Dec 30th 2006
25
Like many films about postmodernity...
Dec 31st 2006
26
so, i FINALLY watched this for the first time. some thoughts
Jan 18th 2007
30
I'm still undecided on whether to watch this . . .
Jul 04th 2007
31
Watch it.
Jul 05th 2007
32

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