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39. "I agree with Frank here -- pro-jew lens is a modern phenomenon"
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>It's easy to say now in a day and age where Jewish people
>suffer far less discrimination than they did in, say, 1600 in
>England. But there are multiple instances in Shakespeare (not
>just Merchant of Venice) where a character says something
>vaguely or blatantly anti-Semitic. I don't think we can safely
>say that Shakespeare was sympathetic toward the plight of
>Jewish people.
>
>I do think he wanted to point out how a Jew would end up being
>so cold-hearted, and give him a bit more characterization. But
>I don't think that he intended at all on this excusing the
>callousness of Shylock's actions.

Shakespeare wrote a compelling play for whatever reason. Maybe even he knew that giving some sympathy to the villain just sucks the audience in that much more, because they really don't know who's going to win, but as far as how Billy really felt about Shylock, I think it's pretty clear he thought he was a vulgar Jew.

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Let's talk about Shakespeare. [View all] , Frank Longo, Thu Nov-09-06 01:35 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Favorite character?
Nov 09th 2006
1
Welles' Falstaff/Chimes At Midnight
Nov 09th 2006
3
Yeah man, I think it's his best performance...
Nov 09th 2006
5
      RE: Yeah man, I think it's his best performance...
Nov 10th 2006
22
I wrote a 20-page paper on Falstaff, so I'm somewhat burned out, LOL
Nov 09th 2006
6
Caliban is dope, Iago is my favorite villain, Shylock is interesting
Nov 10th 2006
26
      Yeah, Iago is hardcore.
Nov 10th 2006
31
           Fuck Malvolio -- that dude is a Herb
Nov 10th 2006
32
Grigori Kozintsev's Hamlet is the best Hamlet film
Nov 09th 2006
2
I've seen that version of "Lear"...
Nov 09th 2006
4
**filled with envy**
Nov 10th 2006
23
King Lear
Mar 23rd 2007
40
we all know what Hamlet movie I think is the best
Nov 09th 2006
9
      Branagh's is like a dope high school production
Nov 10th 2006
24
      Agreed. Branaugh's Hamlet drips with overproduction and ego.
Nov 10th 2006
25
           Charlton Heston tore some shit up, though....
Nov 11th 2006
35
      uh, I don't.
Nov 11th 2006
36
Favorite scene?
Nov 09th 2006
7
loser
Nov 09th 2006
8
How'd Brady work out for you last weekend?
Nov 09th 2006
11
      about as good as Caliban in The Tempest
Nov 09th 2006
13
           Caliban would've thrown fewer INTs. *ASIATIC TRUMPET CALL*
Nov 09th 2006
20
I am convinced he lurks here.
Nov 09th 2006
10
TITUS ANDRONICUS! HE GOOD! MMMMMMMMMMHUH!!
Nov 09th 2006
12
Was he a Catholic?
Nov 09th 2006
14
Nah, Scientologist
Nov 09th 2006
15
I say he was certainly raised that way.
Nov 09th 2006
17
      RE: I say he was certainly raised that way.
Nov 09th 2006
21
The history plays are my favorite.
Nov 09th 2006
16
all those Henrys and Johns and Richards? which ones...?
Nov 09th 2006
18
      My favorites are the Richards, bar none.
Nov 09th 2006
19
           RE: My favorites are the Richards, bar none.
Nov 10th 2006
28
                I have seen this, and I agree.
Nov 10th 2006
29
                     RE: I have seen this, and I agree.
Nov 10th 2006
34
                          yo, you know what you need to find, if you can?
Nov 11th 2006
37
                          But this is revisionist history.
Nov 11th 2006
38
                              
Romeo + Juliet -- romance or satire? I vote satire.
Nov 10th 2006
27
Overall? Nah, I'd say romance.
Nov 10th 2006
30
      That's a good response, it's tough to say
Nov 10th 2006
33
I saw a guy in the Prose Before Hoes t shirt yesterday
Mar 23rd 2007
41

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