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28. "it's enough if your only desire is to (a) entertain"
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and not to (b) enlighten or (c) exercise artistic creativity in addition to (a) entertaining.

Just look at PTP. People look for the deeper meaning in many live-action films, and hold the best of them up as excellent works of art. Whole posts are dedicated to analyzing single films. When's the last time someone other than me went into depth about an animated feature film in a post ("review" posts for newly-released films notwithstanding).

In America, cartoons are either for kids or for giggles. Very few people take animated properties seriously. Even the ones who appreciate, say, "The Simpsons" and "South Park" on a level above mere entertainment don't always have an appreciation for the (painstaking, expensive, and complicated) _art_ of animation.

On top of all fo that, CGI hasn't fully developed to where companies not named "Pixar" can create believable, full-bodied, well animated humanoids in 3D animation. Yet, when all those Pixar films made money, Hollywood threw the baby out with the bathwater and abandoned *all* American cel animation for CGI*.

I almost forgot to talk about the industry: it is probalby one of the worst entertainment industries to go into. Speaking to animation professionals has almost completely disillusioned me from wanting to go into animation: horror stories about long hours, mandatory unpaid overtime, the presence of hoardes of do-nothing execs who ruin the product with their "input", and the general lack of respect for animators and animation professionals in general.

Worse, animation is the type of industry where it's extremely difficult to survive as an "independent". Animation by nature is expensive and time-consuming, so it almost requires corporate backing (and tampering). Add that to the smaller amount of venues available to an independent animator vs. an independent live-action filmmaker, and you have even more of a problem.

All that shit isn't worth trying to fulfil an 11-year-old kid's pipe dream of working on a movie like "Aladdin". I dunno; maybe I'm just (finally) growing up. I'll always love and appreciate animation, but I don't have any "burning desire" to make cartoons anymore. (and I CERTAINLY don't have any burning desire to think, like an idiot, that I can make a cartoon series in my spare time with my own money. WHat a fucking idiot I've been for thinking that). I still have ideas for my characters, but if I ever get around to doing them (I have a fully involved and stressful full-time job), I want to go the (cheaper, less time consuming, and less idiotic) route of a webcomic. Either that, or live action. No animation.

Maybe this all just a frustrated rant because I'm now entering the third year following the collapse of Walt Disney Feature Animation as I knew it, and the destruction of my dream goal of actually being able to work there. Maybe I'm just tired and worn out from working all the time. Maybe I'm just getting old. Maybe, even, I finally matured enough to realize that (depsite the old Disney adage) dreams don't always come true, even if you put work into them. But whatever it is, it's how I honestly feel.

* For those of you unaware, TV programs are animated in foriegn countries.


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So I kinda really wanna see Monster House (official Monster House Post?) [View all] , buckshot defunct, Wed Jul-19-06 09:51 AM
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Mr. Me Too
Jul 19th 2006
sounds good to me
Jul 20th 2006
      I'm on the level
Jul 20th 2006
Yeah, I'm there.
Jul 19th 2006
But will the rapper GLC go see Monster House?
Jul 20th 2006
RE: But will the rapper GLC go see Monster House?
Jul 20th 2006
Yeah, he's a part of a 'focus group' that is interviewed every week in
Jul 20th 2006
      RE: Yeah, he's a part of a 'focus group' that is interviewed every week ...
Jul 20th 2006
you know you can never stop posting these, right?
Jul 20th 2006
I will do my part every week.
Jul 21st 2006
I lost the link to that...
Jul 21st 2006
      here's the most recent one
Jul 21st 2006
           holy shit
Jul 21st 2006
           oh gosh, glc for president.
Jul 21st 2006
that line in the previews when the girl says
Jul 20th 2006
Written by...
Jul 21st 2006
well they did a bang up job
Jul 26th 2006
i saw the first ten minutes while waiting for clerks 2 to start
Jul 22nd 2006
the (hidden) clitoris joke in the trailer got me open
Jul 22nd 2006
Seriously the best movie I've seen so far this summer.
Jul 22nd 2006
Jul 23rd 2006
King World and Turner Ent. should sue
Jul 23rd 2006
You should just be happy there's a great animated movie out, Freddy.
Jul 23rd 2006
      I dunno how "animated" it really is. It does look awful mocapped.
Jul 24th 2006
Jul 24th 2006
      But they do enjoy cartoons
Jul 24th 2006
           well that's too bad, man
Jul 25th 2006
                RE: well that's too bad, man
Jul 25th 2006
      you know, the mocapping wasn't that bad
Jul 26th 2006
           all these stellar reviews are making me want to go see it
Jul 26th 2006
      but back to this Monster House flick:
Jul 24th 2006
Went with the kids...they were alternately scared/delighted
Jul 24th 2006
Jul 24th 2006
Jul 24th 2006
           just fuckin around
Jul 26th 2006
                well, the ones that ARE kids' movies can be called kids' movies
Jul 26th 2006
Go see it in Real D (3D)!!!!
Jul 25th 2006
Holy shit, this movie is GREATNESS
Jul 25th 2006
the second I saw the preview
Jul 26th 2006
very much so
Jul 26th 2006
A little closer to Monster Squad, but you're still right on.
Jul 26th 2006
      shit, even better
Jul 26th 2006
           yes im sold on the monster squad reference!!
Jul 28th 2006
RE: So I kinda really wanna see Monster House (official Monster House Po...
Jul 31st 2006

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