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14. "not very convincing."
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I'm not buying this guy's thesis. He has a valid point in his critique of the "political" portions, where they show Al Gore looking sad and try to offer a fawning biography of his career. Those portions of the movie don't work that well, and could detract from the much more important message it is trying to get across. However, his criticisms of the science and factual content seem totally off-base. Al Gore made a speech that could reach as wide an audience as possible. As such, it isn't going to cover every fact in exact scientific detail. This critic is definitely losing sight of the forest for the trees on this point. The same is true for Gore's criticism of the Bush administration's environmental policy. We should be outraged that individuals representing the interests of oil companies are having a hand in shaping our response to environmental issues, and that he attempted to re-write the science. Whether he was the head of the agency or not seems irrelevant - he was in a position of power with regard to the government's stance on global warming, and he was in the pocket of the industry. The other issue I had with this critic's essay was his argument that Gore should have done more to discuss solutions to global warming and call for more sacrafices by the audience. This was not the focus of the movie. He touches on this question toward the end, in an intentionally cursory way. I think the goal was for the film to be optimistic and hopeful regarding solutions, and to spark political action from the audience, not to give a laundry list of remedies. And I don't see what the alleged hypocrisy of individual environmentalists has to do with Al Gore's larger point, either - it just wouldn't have fit into the movie. This movie is not about placing blame on a single cause of global warming, but more just creating awareness and advocating change across the board.

peace,
murph

  

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Al Gore for President aka An Inconvenient Truth. [View all] , bignick, Tue May-30-06 06:46 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Did you read David Remnick's profile of him in the New Yorker?
May 30th 2006
1
Excellent piece. n/m
Jun 10th 2006
81
Imagine how different things would be now
May 30th 2006
2
I was just thinking that...
Jun 05th 2006
8
I'm looking forward to it.
May 30th 2006
3
aka Al Gore, American Hero
Jun 05th 2006
4
seriously, I have so much admiration for that man right now
Jun 05th 2006
5
      I know, me too.
Jun 05th 2006
6
three thumbs up (i borrowed one).
Jun 05th 2006
7
The moral flaws of an unconvenient truth (swipe)
Jun 05th 2006
9
Easterbrook is not helping the cause n/m
Jun 06th 2006
10
Bush Won.
Jun 06th 2006
11
and because of that, we lost.
Jun 06th 2006
12
      sad but true.
Jun 06th 2006
26
"fufff fuufff fufff fufff fuf"
Jun 06th 2006
13
See, and I had an entirely different take on the ending.
Jun 06th 2006
15
but the solutions are the real hard sell
Jun 06th 2006
17
there's no connection to Fahrenheit 9/11 here
Jun 06th 2006
18
      while the issue IS bigger than liberal vs. conservative,
Jun 06th 2006
19
      I agree with you, and this is just the problem
Jun 06th 2006
22
           remember what Gore says in the film, though
Jun 06th 2006
27
                I've already begun
Jun 07th 2006
31
                     I go around yelling "REAL patriots take the BUS!"
Jun 07th 2006
39
                          yeah, I'm gonna feel guilty when I need a car again
Jun 09th 2006
80
      this is a movie by and partly about Al Gore
Jun 06th 2006
20
           because none of those will end civilization forever
Jun 06th 2006
21
           that's not how loads of your countrymen see it
Jun 06th 2006
23
           this is a totally nonsensical comparison.
Jun 06th 2006
25
           hurrah for sloppy science
Jun 07th 2006
32
                have you seen the film?
Jun 07th 2006
33
                I think by having Al Gore as the spokesperson
Jun 07th 2006
37
                     so you haven't seen the film
Jun 07th 2006
54
                          bah, I'm done with this post
Jun 07th 2006
55
                               NO
Jun 07th 2006
57
                                    RE: NO
Jun 07th 2006
58
                yeah, bringing attention to a HUGE problem is pointless.
Jun 07th 2006
34
                     but we already know about it
Jun 07th 2006
36
                          doc, did you see the film?
Jun 07th 2006
38
                          nope
Jun 07th 2006
40
                               maybe in a vacuum it would be ridiculous
Jun 07th 2006
41
                               I don't think further attatching the issue to a partisan
Jun 07th 2006
46
                                    I don't think
Jun 07th 2006
50
                                         I'm not deadset against it
Jun 07th 2006
52
                               aaaaaand scene.
Jun 07th 2006
43
                                    to be fair
Jun 07th 2006
45
                                    Is there a plot twist not covered in the trailer?
Jun 07th 2006
47
                                         not covered in the trailer:
Jun 07th 2006
48
                                         I might see it
Jun 07th 2006
53
                                         then don't go see it.
Jun 07th 2006
56
                          mainstream America has had their head in the sand for years.
Jun 07th 2006
42
                               The film was in the top 10 on opening weekend
Jun 07th 2006
44
           RE: this is a movie by and partly about Al Gore
Jun 07th 2006
65
RE: not very convincing.
Jun 06th 2006
30
lame.
Jun 06th 2006
16
      Yowzers. Well said.
Jun 07th 2006
68
You have actually seen the movie?
Jun 06th 2006
24
here's the website
Jun 06th 2006
28
i'm a real live Hollywood liberal. we get special treatment.
Jun 06th 2006
29
      i miss living in LA.
Jun 07th 2006
35
      why in THE HELL did you leave LA for the midwest?
Jun 07th 2006
49
           takin care of moms after pops died.
Jun 07th 2006
51
                respect.
Jun 20th 2006
82
      We do? Oh, yeah, we do!
Jul 17th 2006
84
I'm issuing a retraction
Jun 07th 2006
59
for the record, Gore is shown traveling on commercial airlines
Jun 07th 2006
60
Nader uses an ultralight
Jun 07th 2006
61
      For international travel?
Jun 07th 2006
62
           Bus?
Jun 07th 2006
63
                i just blow in the wind
Jun 07th 2006
64
                     ^^^^ wasting natural resources
Jun 07th 2006
66
                     RE: Dr.kNOw
Jun 08th 2006
73
damn you.
Jun 07th 2006
67
you know, im glad he raising awareness about global warming BUT
Jun 07th 2006
69
yeah, it was unfortunate
Jun 07th 2006
70
In fact, the reason I'm pretty clear that he's really out of politics
Jun 07th 2006
71
RE: In fact, the reason I'm pretty clear that he's really out of politic...
Jun 08th 2006
76
BUT you know...he did win.
Jun 07th 2006
72
Well, if he hadn't candy-assed it, stealing Florida wouldn't have matter...
Jun 08th 2006
77
he's all but admitted he made huge mistakes
Jun 08th 2006
74
Brilliant.
Jun 08th 2006
75
no offense to al gore, but the planet really doesn't stand a chance
Jun 09th 2006
78
see the movie
Jun 09th 2006
79
up
Jul 17th 2006
83

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