Printer-friendly copy Email this topic to a friend
Lobby Pass The Popcorn topic #165273

Subject: "its in the book 'behind the mask of divinity'" This topic is locked.
Previous topic | Next topic
GumDrops
Charter member
26088 posts
Tue Mar-28-06 05:35 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
41. "its in the book 'behind the mask of divinity'"
In response to In response to 23
Tue Mar-28-06 05:40 AM by GumDrops

  

          

in that book the author puts forward evidence to imply that gandhi thought he was above black south africans. and going from the quotes in gandhis writings, it doesnt make him look too good. the tone suggests that he thinks himself above the black prisoners he was stuck with. but to be fair, the person he was in south africa isnt the same person he was decades later. i dont know for definite if he changed his views on black people but he did become more wise and open minded/enlightened in his old age (as did say, malcom x) and theres some quotes here offering some counter evidence that the guy writing the book conveniently overlooked:

“ England has got successful competitors in America, Japan, France, Germany. It has competitors in the handful of mills in India, and as there has been an awakening in India, even so there will be an awakening in South Africa with its vastly richer resources -- natural , mineral and human. The mighty English look quite pigmies before the mighty races of Africa. They are noble savages after all, you will say. They are certainly noble, but no savages and in the course of a few years the Western nations may cease to find in Africa a dumping ground for their wares.”
Gandhi, speaking at Oxford, October 24, 1931 (CWMG , Volume 48, p.225).

“You, on the other hand, are the sons of the soil who are being robbed of your inheritance. You are bound to resist that. Yours is a far bigger issue.” Gandhi to Rev S.S. Tema , member of the African Congress, January 1, 1939 (CWMG, Volume 68, pp 272-273.)

A deputation from South Africa led by Sorabji Rustomji came to India in 1946 (CWMG, Vol 83, pp 352-354). It was protesting against racial legislation in South Africa. A member of the delegation asked Gandhi: “You have said we should associate with Zulus and Bantus. Does it not mean joining them in a common anti-white front? “ Gandhi replied: “Yes, I have said that we should associate with the Zulus, Bantus, etc….It will be good if you can fire them with the spirit of non-violence”. (CWMG, Vol 83, p 353). Gandhi remarked of the deputationists’ cause on May 27, 1946 : “The cause is the cause of the honour of India and through her of all the exploited coloured races of the earth, whether they be brown, yellow or black. It is worth all the suffering of which they are capable”. (CWMG, Vol 84, p. 215).

Gandhi remained in contact also with leading American Black personalities like W E B Dubois. He wrote in Young India on October 14, 1926 about the “injustice that is being daily perpetrated against the Negro in the United States of America in the name of and for the sake of maintaining white superiority.”

theres some interesting comments about it here (its where i got the above quotes from)-
http://www.stinkzone.com/cgi-bin/archives/000056.html
you can make up your own mind

  

Printer-friendly copy


When you watch Ganhdi, do you get charged? [View all] , k_orr, Tue Mar-21-06 05:01 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
So...
Mar 21st 2006
1
I'm asking a film related question
Mar 21st 2006
3
...golly gee whillickers! that's a reference to sumthin'? Hoodoggies!
Mar 21st 2006
4
      RE: ...golly gee whillickers! that's a reference to sumthin'? Hoodoggies...
Mar 21st 2006
5
      a'hyuck!
Mar 21st 2006
6
           great
Mar 22nd 2006
21
It makes me want to write in my book of rhymes past the margin
Mar 21st 2006
2
I always wondered about that
Mar 21st 2006
7
Maybe the idea of using non-violence to oust a regime
Mar 21st 2006
8
maybe he meant 'recharged'
Mar 21st 2006
9
maybe he meant "broze"
Mar 21st 2006
11
      hahaha
Mar 22nd 2006
13
      lmao
Mar 27th 2006
38
      ZING!
Mar 27th 2006
39
      i embrace y'all with napalm.
Mar 27th 2006
40
Gandhi made me fall asleep big time. Tootsie got ROBBED.
Mar 21st 2006
10
Ghandi has been effectively neutralized at this point
Mar 22nd 2006
12
no, but i got amped up when they locked the champ up.
Mar 22nd 2006
14
Damn late pass
Mar 24th 2006
29
I get charged reading Mountains Beyond Mountains
Mar 22nd 2006
15
I want to be Paul Farmer when I finally get this MD
Mar 23rd 2006
24
      It's really engaging
Mar 23rd 2006
28
I do
Mar 22nd 2006
16
Fuck all that, I'm out for dead fuckin' presidents to represent me.
Mar 22nd 2006
17
This post=understandable smooth shit that murderers move with
Mar 22nd 2006
18
I always have the urge for a hamburger while watchin it
Mar 22nd 2006
19
no, but I do watch it Baked
Mar 22nd 2006
20
For a whole week in your apt?
Mar 24th 2006
31
I always feel bad
Mar 25th 2006
34
mother fuck him and john wayne
Mar 22nd 2006
22
I wonder if King knew that before he started borrowing?
Mar 22nd 2006
23
how objective of you.
Mar 23rd 2006
25
atleast he wasn't citing Scarface like every other rapper
Mar 23rd 2006
26
RE: atleast he wasn't citing Scarface like every other rapper
Mar 23rd 2006
27
Ghandi epitomizes the afrocentric asian
Mar 24th 2006
30
This post has been poisoned with all these Nas lyrics
Mar 24th 2006
32
Well played.
Mar 24th 2006
33
lol
Mar 26th 2006
35
99% of people have spelt GANDHI wrong in this post...
Mar 26th 2006
36
^^^Damn look there goes a indian girl lost
Mar 27th 2006
37
      She's thinks of Ghan, when she's in a New Delhi State of Mind
Mar 28th 2006
42
up
Mar 29th 2006
43

Lobby Pass The Popcorn topic #165273 Previous topic | Next topic
Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.25
Copyright © DCScripts.com