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Finally saw it this afternoon. excellent, excellent movie! one of the top films of the year by far.

i can go on about the stregnths of the flim, but id prefer to address the criticism by the jewish community the film has recieved (see WSJ editorial in reply #61.)


First off, ill say that im jewish, lets get that out of the bag. so i looked at the film knowing the criticism i read (and didnt support) and wanted to see the film to form my own opinions.

now granted, the film itself is dealing with a very touchy subject.

jews will often scrutinize any negative media against them, especially considering the feud (or better yet war at this point) with the palestinians. because despite what the general population, and im sure many of you think (i wont refer to the 15'ed responses but...), the jews are not the ones in control of the media. watch the news.... whenever the Israelis are bombed, the news footage always shows the scene of the explosion, broken glass, debris etc. However, when the Israeli's retaliate and respond with an attack, the news will show a dead body or a mother grieving over the coffin her dead child. Peter Jennings was the king of this, as he was married to a palestinian woman and had a distinct viewpoint that did not favor the Jews. You could see his bias in his reporting. I wont get into this debate now, but just realize that the jews dont control media or hollywood like many people think, and thats why they are critical of certain hollywood or media depictions.

with that said, i STRONGLY disagree with the criticism of the depiction of jews in this film. I think Spielberg did an excellent job depicting a very difficult series of events. Dont forget, spielberg is a jew, and when i first heard the complaints, it baffled me why a jew would degrade his own people in his depictions of their actions.

***spoiler warnings***

all of the assassinations in the film were justified as the film started off with the horrific events at Munich and had constant flashbacks and dialog throughout (i guess the WSJ dude slept through those parts of the film since he says we didnt see what happend at munich til the very end. Wrong (C) Charlie Murphy.

However, the BIGGEST MISINTERPRETATION was the fact that the head Mossad (eric bana's character) felt remorse at the end of the film. Now the actual assassin said he felt no remorse, and that bana's depiction of him was not accurate for those reasons. HOWEVER, the jews criticizing the film are claiming he felt remorse for killing the arabs, since they were shown as "family men" or "real people" in the film. Thats such bullshit! He DID feel remorse, but it was because he has become one of the hunted. His wife had just gave birth to a baby girl and he wanted to raise a family and put the past behind him... but he became very paranoid of a retaliation attack against him -like 3 of his fellow men faced and were murdered. He felt remorse for not being able to live a normal life with his wife and daughter- NOT for killing the palestinians. In fact, he says numerous times in the film that all the men responsible for Munich, and other Israeli attacks, deserved what they had coming to them.

Overall, my point is that these jewish groups are very defensive since they are a minority and the media depictions of the events in the middle east arent always in their favor. With that in mind, they are very wary of any media that can be used as propaganda against them. However (and this is the important part), Munich is a film that has been misinterpreted by these critical groups. Rarely (maybe once) did i feel the Jews were depicted as wrong in the film (and i was looking for this throughout the film).

bravo spielberg- you amazed me again.

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The Munich Post [View all] , rather unique, Mon Dec-26-05 09:19 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
i'll be seeing it tomorrow night
Dec 23rd 2005
1
RE: The Munich Post
Dec 23rd 2005
2
imma try to check it this w/e
Dec 23rd 2005
3
Gonna see it tomorrow
Dec 23rd 2005
4
i saw it and i loved it, good fuckin story
Dec 23rd 2005
5
good but some needless melodrama
Dec 24th 2005
6
kinda felt the same way about Private Ryan
Dec 24th 2005
9
quality film
Dec 24th 2005
7
I saw her first
Dec 24th 2005
8
thumbs sideways (spoilers)
Dec 26th 2005
22
RE: thumbs sideways (spoilers)
Dec 27th 2005
41
It was pretty good (spoilers)
Dec 26th 2005
28
classy
Dec 26th 2005
30
yeah, I dunno about this
Dec 26th 2005
31
what is there not to know about?
Dec 26th 2005
32
Complaints? Inbox me.
Dec 26th 2005
33
      inbox?
Dec 26th 2005
34
           Alright then.
Dec 26th 2005
35
i dunno what to think
Dec 27th 2005
36
well, if the book is to be believed
Dec 27th 2005
37
      i dont doubt its a great film
Dec 27th 2005
38
           on the one hand it's a distortion of fact
Dec 27th 2005
39
                RE: (spoilers)
Dec 27th 2005
42
I want to see it
Dec 27th 2005
40
I had thought I would see it, but then
Dec 27th 2005
43
if it had 1/8th the budget you would!
Jan 01st 2006
63
if a jew didnt make this film...it would be called anti-semite
Dec 27th 2005
44
i said this before: all he did was put our internal dialogue out there f...
Dec 27th 2005
45
Solid film
Dec 27th 2005
46
I'll cosign all of this
Dec 29th 2005
48
RE: Solid film
Dec 29th 2005
49
      yeah, what he said
Dec 29th 2005
50
           RE: yeah, what he said
Dec 29th 2005
51
           the toy robot (SPOILER)
Dec 29th 2005
52
                RE: the toy robot (SPOILER)
Dec 29th 2005
53
                     yep
Dec 29th 2005
54
                          movie cliche #893
Dec 29th 2005
56
                          they killed a kid
Dec 30th 2005
57
                          but the kid had an AK
Dec 31st 2005
59
                          how did they get away?
Dec 31st 2005
58
                               Another movie cliche
Dec 31st 2005
60
           alright
Dec 29th 2005
55
not seeing it today but.....
Dec 28th 2005
47
Interesting Wall Street Journal Editorial (swipe)
Dec 31st 2005
61
I don't know about some of this guy's comments...
Jan 01st 2006
64
      i get the feeling most of it was taken out of context
Jan 01st 2006
65
      this writer made up his mind b4 he saw the film
Jan 03rd 2006
67
I'm seeing it tomorrow! Cannot wait!!
Dec 31st 2005
62
good movie
Jan 02nd 2006
66
... you're JEWISH?!
Jan 04th 2006
69
      why is that such a shock?
Jan 04th 2006
70
           ... where have you been for our Jew posts in GD?! I am HURT.
Jan 05th 2006
71
                lol
Jan 05th 2006
72
biggest disappointment of the year
Jan 09th 2006
biggest disappointment of the year
Jan 09th 2006
73
^
Jan 14th 2006
74
This joint was heckla good..
Jan 16th 2006
75

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