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Frank Longo
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22. "You’re misunderstanding my point."
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Sat Dec-10-22 11:48 AM by Frank Longo

  

          

I don’t think a movie star can elevate poorly written and directed material enough to actually make it good and worth checking out. That’s my point.

Like, you mentioned The Ladykillers. It is *clearly* well-directed, and while I don’t love it, there are also *multiple* really good performances in it, so clearly there’s enough in the script for actors to chew on to make it worthwhile.

For movies that Hanks has been in that i think *were* poorly written and directed— The Da Vinci Code, Pinocchio, The Circle, A Hologram For The King, etc— I also do not think Hanks is good.

If a single actor shines in a movie, then the script, while uneven, must give that actor enough to work with to allow them to shine— or the director shoots the actor’s scenes stylishly and effectively despite not being able to consistently tell the story.

Y’all can argue about Smith all you want, lol, I don’t really care enough about him to fight back on that. I think he’s a very good actor who’s made too many bad choices over the last decade. You all disagree, that’s fine.

I just don’t think that an actor’s goodness is remotely defined by their ability to “make bad material and bad direction worth watching.” Because I think that is, with insanely rare exception, not a thing. Can actors emerge unscathed from otherwise bad movies? Yes! But then their material in the movie was better than the rest of the movie’s material— your Margot Robbie-Suicide Squad mention is a *great* example of this, lol. Or Tom Cruise in Rock of Ages— Adam Shankman is, if nothing else, a great director of musical numbers who absolutely knows how to shoot a star like they’re a star.

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Emancipation (Antoine Fuqua, 2022) [View all] , bwood, Mon Dec-05-22 01:41 PM
 
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this would tank historically if it weren’t on Apple
Dec 05th 2022
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He sure did.
Dec 05th 2022
3
That bad?
Dec 05th 2022
2
I like Fuqua but this......is not his lane.
Dec 06th 2022
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I know it feels opportunistic for me to say this now...
Dec 07th 2022
5
Wait, is this a real question?
Dec 07th 2022
6
absolutely
Dec 07th 2022
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      Good actor and one of the greats are not the same.
Dec 07th 2022
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           Yeah, he’s absolutely a very good actor.
Dec 08th 2022
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                Shouldn't a very good actor be able to elevate mediocre material?
Dec 09th 2022
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                     good question. i think a very good actor can carry a film to a degree.
Dec 09th 2022
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                     Can you name movies that fall under this umbrella?
Dec 10th 2022
19
                          johnny depp in black mass.
Dec 10th 2022
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                     Is Tom Hanks not a good actor?
Dec 10th 2022
18
                          fam stop. this is horrible logic.
Dec 10th 2022
21
                              
He's a good actor. Just a coward at picking roles.
Dec 09th 2022
10
Part of being a good actor is picking good roles.
Dec 09th 2022
11
I can buy that
Dec 09th 2022
12
does he picks safe roles or roles most likely to garner acclaim?
Dec 09th 2022
15
Not sure. I'd say he only plays likeable characters.
Dec 10th 2022
23
Yeah I def think this is a larger part of his questionable choices
Dec 12th 2022
26
He started out taking risks like that with Six Degrees of Separation
Dec 10th 2022
24
I think this is mostly true...
Dec 11th 2022
25
i agree. hes good when the role is close to the real him.
Dec 09th 2022
14
      I found him unwatchable in King Richard
Dec 09th 2022
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