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https://variety.com/2019/film/reviews/joker-review-joaquin-phoenix-todd-phillips-1203317033/

Joaquin Phoenix is astonishing as a mentally ill geek who becomes the killer-clown Joker in Todd Phillips' neo-'Taxi Driver' knockout: the rare comic-book movie that expresses what's happening in the real world.

By OWEN GLEIBERMAN
Chief Film Critic
@OwenGleiberman

Audiences, as we know, can’t get enough of a great bad guy — the kind we love to hate. The worse he acts, the more we stare. Of course, the fact that we relish a villain doesn’t mean that we’re on his side; getting off on the catchy, scary spectacle of bad behavior isn’t the same as identifying with it. But in “Joker,” Todd Phillips’ hypnotically perverse, ghoulishly grippingly urban-nightmare comic fantasia, Arthur Fleck (Joaquin Phoenix), the mentally ill loser-freak who will, down the line, become Batman’s nemesis, stands before us not as a grand villain but as a pathetic specimen of raw human damage. Even as we’re drinking in his screw-loose antics with shock and dismay, there’s no denying that we feel something for him — a twinge of sympathy, or at least understanding.

Early on, Arthur, in full clown regalia, is standing in front of a store on a jam-packed avenue, where he’s been hired to carry an “Everything Must Go” sign. A bunch of kids steal the sign and then kick the holy crap out of him. The beating fulfills a certain masochistic karma Arthur carries around, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that we feel sorry for him.

“Joker” tells the story of Arthur’s descent (and, in a way, his rise), but it’s clear from the outset that he’s a basket case, a kind of maestro of his own misery. He would like, on some level, to connect, but he can’t. He’s too far out there, like Norman Bates; he’s a self-conscious, postmodern head case ­— a person who spends every moment trying to twist himself into a normal shape, but he knows the effort is doomed, so he turns it all into a “joke” that only he gets.

Arthur’s response to almost everything is to laugh, and he’s got a collection of contrived guffaws — a high-pitched delirious giggle, a “hearty” yock, a stylized cackle that’s all but indistinguishable from a sob. In each case, the laughter is an act that parades itself as fakery. What it expresses isn’t glee; it expresses the fact that Arthur feels nothing, that he’s dead inside. He’s a bitter, mocking nowhere man on the edge of a nervous breakdown.

For all two hours of “Joker,” Arthur, a two-bit professional clown and aspiring stand-up comic who lives with his batty mother (Frances Conroy) in a peeling-paint apartment, is front and center — in the movie, and in our psychological viewfinder. He’s at the dark heart of every scene, the way Travis Bickle was in “Taxi Driver,” and “Joker,” set in 1981 in a Gotham City that looks, with uncanny exactitude, like the squalid, graffiti-strewn, trash-heaped New York City of the early ’80s (you can feel the rot), is a movie made in direct homage to “Taxi Driver,” though there are other films it will make you think of. As the story of a putz trying to succeed as a stand-up comedian, it evokes Scorsese and De Niro’s satirical riff on “Taxi Driver,” “The King of Comedy.” There are also elements lifted from “Death Wish,” “Network,” “V for Vendetta,” “The Empire Strikes Back,” “The Shining” and “The Purge.”

More than that, though, the whole movie, in spirit, is a kind of origin-story riff on Heath Ledger’s performance in “The Dark Knight”: the comic-book villain as Method psycho, a troublemaker so intense in his cuckoo hostility that even as you’re gawking at his violence, you still feel his pain.

Phoenix’s performance is astonishing. He appears to have lost weight for the role, so that his ribs and shoulder blades protrude, and the leanness burns his face down to its expressive essence: black eyebrows, sallow cheeks sunk in gloom, a mouth so rubbery it seems to be snarking at the very notion of expression, all set off by a greasy mop of hair. Phoenix is playing a geek with an unhinged mind, yet he’s so controlled that he’s mesmerizing. He stays true to the desperate logic of Arthur’s unhappiness.

You’re always aware of how much the mood and design of “Joker” owe to “Taxi Driver” and “The King of Comedy.” For a filmmaker gifted enough to stand on his own, Phillips is too beholden to his idols. Yet within that scheme, he creates a dazzlingly disturbed psycho morality play, one that speaks to the age of incels and mass shooters and no-hope politics, of the kind of hate that emerges from crushed dreams.

Arthur and his mother sit around after hours, watching the late-night talk-show host Murray Franklin (played, by De Niro, as a piece of old-school Carson vaudeville), and as much as we think Arthur should move out and leave his mommy behind, we hardly know the half of it. When he gets fired (for revealing a handgun during a clown gig at a children’s hospital ward), there’s a suspense built into everything that happens, and it spins around the question: How will someone this weak and inept, this trapped in the nuttiness of his self-delusion, evolve into a figure of dark power?

At night, on the subway, Arthur, still wearing his clown suit, is taunted and attacked by three young Wall Street players. So he pulls out his gun like Charles Bronson and shoots them dead. The case becomes tabloid fodder (“Killer Clown on the Loose”), and the sensation of it is that the denizens of Gotham think he’s a hero. That sounds like a standard comic-book-movie ploy, but the twisted commitment of Phoenix’s performance lets us feel how the violence cleanses Arthur; doing tai chi in a bathroom after the murders, he’s reborn. And we believe in his thirst for escape, because Phillips, working with the cinematographer Lawrence Sher (who evokes “Taxi Driver’s” gray-green documentary seaminess), creates an urban inferno so lifelike that it threatens to make the film-noir Gotham of “The Dark Knight” look like a video game.


Of course, a rebellion against the ruling elite — which is what Arthur’s vigilante action comes to symbolize — is more plausible now than it was a decade ago. “Joker” is a comic-book tale rendered with sinister topical fervor. When Arthur, on the elevator, connects with Sophie (Zazie Beetz), his neighbor, the two take turns miming Travis Bickle’s finger-gun-against-the-head suicide gesture, which becomes the film’s key motif. It’s a way of saying: This is what America has come to — a place where people feel like blowing their brains out. The relationship between Arthur and Sophie doesn’t track if you think about it too much, but it’s a riff on one that didn’t totally track either — the link, however fleeting, between Travis and Cybill Shepherd’s Betsy in “Taxi Driver.” Arthur, in a funny way, hides his brains (they’re revealed only when he passes through the looking glass of villainy). He’s got a piece missing. But what fills the space is violence.

Many have asked, and with good reason: Do we need another Joker movie? Yet what we do need — badly — are comic-book films that have a verité gravitas, that unfold in the real world, so that there’s something more dramatic at stake than whether the film in question is going to rack up a billion-and-a-half dollars worldwide. “Joker” manages the nimble feat of telling the Joker’s origin story as if it were unprecedented. We feel a tingle when Bruce Wayne comes into the picture; he’s there less as a force than an omen. And we feel a deeply deranged thrill when Arthur, having come out the other side of his rage, emerges wearing smeary make-up, green hair, an orange vest and a rust-colored suit.

When he dances on the long concrete stairway near his home, like a demonic Michael Jackson, with Gary Glitter’s “Rock and Roll Part 2” bopping on the soundtrack, it’s a moment of transcendent insanity, because he’s not trying to be “the Joker.” He’s just improvising, going with the flow of his madness. And when he gets his fluky big shot to go on TV, we think we know what’s going to happen (that he’s destined to be humiliated), but what we see, instead, is a monster reborn with a smile. And lo and behold, we’re on his side. Because the movie does something that flirts with danger — it gives evil a clown-mask makeover, turning it into the sickest possible form of cool.


Reviewed at Venice Film Festival (Competition), Aug. 31, 2019. MPAA rating: R. Running time: 122 MIN.

PRODUCTION: A Warner Bros. release of a DC Films in association with Village Roadshow Pictures, BRON Creative, A Joint Effort production. Producers: Bradley Cooper, Emma Tillinger Koskoff, Todd Phillips. Executive producers: Richard Baratta, Bruce Berman, Jason Cloth, Joseph Garner, Aaron L. Gilbert, Walter Hamada, Michael E. Uslan.

CREW: Director: Todd Phillips. Screenplay: Todd Phillips, Scott Silver. Camera (color, widescreen): Lawrence Sher. Editor: Jeff Groth. Music: Hildur Gudnadóttir.

WITH: Joaquin Phoenix, Robert De Niro, Frances Conroy, Zazie Beetz, Brett Cullen, Brian Tyree Henry, Marc Maron, Dante Pereira-Olson, Douglas Hodge, Sharon Washington.

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Joker (Todd Phillips, 2019) [View all] , bwood, Wed Apr-03-19 08:26 AM
 
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I did a complete 180 on this
Apr 03rd 2019
1
Curiosity piqued, but looks like it could be slightly MAGA-y...
Apr 03rd 2019
2
If a MAGA/right wing take is in this flick
Apr 03rd 2019
3
RE: If a MAGA/right wing take is in this flick
Apr 03rd 2019
4
      RE: If a MAGA/right wing take is in this flick
Apr 03rd 2019
5
      could you imagine if fight club came out today?
Apr 03rd 2019
14
      RE: If a MAGA/right wing take is in this flick
Sep 03rd 2019
39
Looks INCREDIBLY MAGA-y.
Apr 03rd 2019
8
      RE: Looks INCREDIBLY MAGA-y.
Apr 03rd 2019
11
           Incels/MAGA aren't really focused like that tho.
Apr 03rd 2019
16
                RE: Incels/MAGA aren't really focused like that tho.
Apr 04th 2019
17
                     the alt rights new mascot is a clown.
Apr 05th 2019
19
                          Interesting.
Apr 05th 2019
20
                          yeah i didnt see the maga-y angle til it was brought up in here.
Apr 05th 2019
23
                          RE: the alt rights new mascot is a clown.
Sep 03rd 2019
40
Overwhelmed white guy joker. LOL. Y'all can keep that....
Apr 03rd 2019
6
Incredible, can't wait to see this.
Apr 03rd 2019
7
meh
Apr 03rd 2019
9
PaperBoi!!!
Apr 03rd 2019
10
dude is the new james franco.
Apr 03rd 2019
15
This is suppose is a minor point
Apr 03rd 2019
12
Damn.
Apr 03rd 2019
13
I'm Good love
Apr 04th 2019
18
So this is just a a one off story?
Apr 05th 2019
21
the original post covered this
Apr 05th 2019
22
JOKER - Final Trailer
Aug 28th 2019
24
looks good to me
Aug 28th 2019
25
looks like a classic NYC film
Aug 28th 2019
26
I hope it's the JOKER, not just a psychopath in a clown suit
Aug 29th 2019
27
Raves away out of Venice.
Aug 31st 2019
28
It’s mostly the geek blogger critics responding tho.
Aug 31st 2019
29
      I only trust Erlich on movies that look like garbage or I'm not sure abo...
Aug 31st 2019
30
The Hollywood Reporter's review
Aug 31st 2019
31
Glenn Kenny with the pan for Ebert Voices:
Aug 31st 2019
33
Some takes from some female critics
Aug 31st 2019
34
apparently its a hit with incels.
Aug 31st 2019
35
Pretty believable review by the typical venice film festival attendee
Sep 01st 2019
36
That guy was writing a satirical post. I think that's fairly clear.
Sep 01st 2019
37
even pluralsight is offering free passes
Sep 03rd 2019
41
Think/opinion piece writers are gonna eat off of this one
Sep 03rd 2019
38
9.7 on imdb
Sep 03rd 2019
42
Which is hilarious considering only a handful of people have seen it.
Sep 03rd 2019
43
      good idea for a film
Sep 04th 2019
44
Just got the highest award at Venice
Sep 07th 2019
45
Eric John's take
Sep 10th 2019
46
Military Issues Warning to Troops about Incel-led Domestic Terrorism
Sep 24th 2019
47
I have no interest in this movie ...
Sep 25th 2019
48
Remmeber, the shooting at Amy Schumer's Trainwreck?
Sep 25th 2019
49
if theres some safety threat...why just warn the military?
Sep 25th 2019
50
      me. me finds it weird
Sep 25th 2019
52
      Because the threats aren’t location specific.
Sep 26th 2019
54
           they did the opposite of this tho:
Sep 26th 2019
56
                The FBI can’t inform the public about credible but vague threats.
Sep 26th 2019
57
                     the fbi issues warnings to the public on general vague threats.
Sep 26th 2019
58
                          That Halloween candy thing was a hoax
Oct 08th 2019
109
The Joker Is The One Batman Villain I've Always Hated
Sep 25th 2019
51
the Joker fatigue is real
Sep 26th 2019
53
      But how dope would that be??
Sep 26th 2019
55
      Isn't That Basically What The 1989 Burton Version Was?
Sep 26th 2019
59
           True..but like...give me 2 movies with just the villian, lol
Sep 27th 2019
60
      I'm in this camp.
Sep 27th 2019
62
           they don't even have faith in batman
Sep 27th 2019
64
Some of the director's comments seem tone-deaf
Sep 27th 2019
61
i guess the fbi and the military are far left now.
Sep 27th 2019
63
maybe, but he also has a point about double standards
Sep 30th 2019
65
In terms of the film's content, I'm guessing this is going to be...
Oct 01st 2019
66
BTW, I think I love the Joker because I read this as a teen
Oct 01st 2019
67
Todd Phillips is impressively bad at PR.
Oct 01st 2019
68
all he had to say was the film speaks for itself.
Oct 01st 2019
69
He already showed his ass w/ the Hangover movies
Oct 01st 2019
70
he's kind of right though
Oct 01st 2019
71
      This isn't true. The script leaked long ago.
Oct 01st 2019
72
           I'll admit, you're right again
Oct 02nd 2019
73
           he's the director we deserve (lol)
Oct 02nd 2019
76
I'm doing a full embargo on anything Joker until I see it
Oct 02nd 2019
74
I just read about 3 sentences, that was more than enough.
Oct 03rd 2019
78
Todd Phillips sends clip of Joaquin walking off set....
Oct 02nd 2019
75
this is some odd marketing..2019
Oct 02nd 2019
77
ugh, that felt like releasing footage of an actor getting dressed withou...
Oct 03rd 2019
81
jesus fucking christ.
Oct 04th 2019
84
From Hangover and Road Trip to Joker. I’ll pass. How’d he get to dir...
Oct 03rd 2019
79
Saw it this morning with a Todd Philips Q&A.
Oct 03rd 2019
80
Seeing it tonight. Hope some white dude doesn't bring a gun.
Oct 04th 2019
85
It works. I bought all of it. And the concerns about this inspiring
Oct 03rd 2019
82
day-after digestion: I bought about 90% of it, shouldn't have said ALL
Oct 04th 2019
87
Seems like what WATCHMEN wanted to be.
Oct 03rd 2019
83
I will be downloading a Cam
Oct 04th 2019
86
Well shot and acted but luxuriates in its appeal to the downtrodden
Oct 05th 2019
88
I really liked it, well done Taxi Driver remake
Oct 06th 2019
89
Ultimately trash but I was entertained
Oct 06th 2019
90
Phoenix is great. Having said that, fuck this movie
Oct 07th 2019
91
Spoiler
Oct 07th 2019
92
      He didn't though
Oct 07th 2019
102
           RE: He didn't though-well hell, how are we supposed to know that?
Oct 07th 2019
103
           k. I only thought it was left to interpretation because
Oct 08th 2019
105
                Yeah..I'm with you fam..oh well
Oct 08th 2019
106
I thought it was really good, minus a few points. Mainly SOCIAL MOVEMENT...
Oct 07th 2019
93
i mean, its Gotham
Oct 07th 2019
94
      It's lazy. It's disingenuous.
Oct 07th 2019
95
           i get what you're saying, but that's expecting a little too much
Oct 07th 2019
98
                No Batman film has ever explored Gotham enough for that to work for me
Oct 08th 2019
107
                     The films have explained Gotham as well as the comics
Oct 08th 2019
108
                     So you’ve never seen Dark Knight or dark knight rises
Oct 09th 2019
112
How does this compare to Falling Down?
Oct 07th 2019
96
nah fam...doesnt look like a hero at all
Oct 07th 2019
100
no i dont think he's sold to the audience as a hero/figure to be revered
Oct 07th 2019
101
It was very good but i don't know that it needed to be a joker movie
Oct 07th 2019
97
Better than i was expecting. Good anti-jokes. (spoilers)
Oct 07th 2019
99
Felt like seeing the best cover band in the world. (Spoilers)
Oct 07th 2019
104
Agreed on both these points, big time.
Oct 09th 2019
110
Could've been good, but the script is capital-B Bad.
Oct 09th 2019
111
Whiteness and "Joker" - NY Times swipe (spoilers inside)
Oct 10th 2019
113
another thing (spoiler)--the depiction of mental illness is BS
Oct 10th 2019
114
i don't think the killing had anything to do with his issues
Oct 10th 2019
115
well, it's not a smart enough movie to diagnose.
Oct 10th 2019
116
Do people really view this as painting him as a sympathetic character?
Oct 14th 2019
117
i was thinking about this while watching it. i see it somewhat
Oct 14th 2019
118
Fuck it I liked it.
Oct 14th 2019
119
Why shocked?
Oct 14th 2019
120
yeah I figured that was the sole purpose of having him in it.
Oct 15th 2019
121
this tracks.
Oct 24th 2019
124
When I imagined directorbro of Hangover making SERIOUS comic book movie
Oct 23rd 2019
122
I guess DC got a win this time around
Oct 24th 2019
123
I don't think so
Oct 25th 2019
125
https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1187619362003472384
Oct 25th 2019
126
an ok movie with a great performance
Nov 26th 2019
127
holy christ, this was an abomination
Jan 10th 2020
128
Thank you!
Jan 10th 2020
129
yes.
Jun 04th 2020
136
did not like this at all
Jan 11th 2020
130
I did not like. I don't think I could like even if I trried.
Jan 23rd 2020
131
RE: I did not like. I don't think I could like even if I trried.
Jan 23rd 2020
132
      RE: I did not like. I don't think I could like even if I trried.
Jan 30th 2020
135
I thought it was excellent
Jan 24th 2020
133
I liked it
Jan 27th 2020
134
Sad
Jun 16th 2020
137

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