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Selah
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12. "Didn't hate it but didn't really like it either (spoilers)"
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Mon Jun-24-19 11:54 AM by Selah

          

It added nothing to the overall "arc"

We got already had the joy/value of being a kid (and the beauty of the love a kid has for their toys)

We already had the value of staying together as a family

We already had the heartbreak of being lost/left behind

We already had the "passing of the torch" (as Andy's toys got passed to Bonnie)

this movie pretty much ignored all the older characters except Woody and Bo (throwaway lines and virtual cameos by all Bonnie's older toys, Jessie, and Buzz being reduced to the straight man for Key and Peele)

there were a few weirdly dark elements:
- forky the suicidal not-toy (the *only* reason for that drawn out scene/montage of him being rescued from the trash was to get the full Randy Newman song in)
- that scene where woody gets his voicebox damn near ripped out by the homicidal ventriloquist henchmen. (also, re: the henchmen...how come they were just evil for evil sake mostly based on their "creepy" look? I though we were on some "don't just by looks" phase?)
- and that scene in the club where the top half of the one toy was still sentient despite his bottom still being out in the hall - why no rescue mission so he could be fixed? note: this entire thing was played for laughs

next - the Bo arc was off because, one she isn't really a toy at all, and two they set her up as a free spirit who ultimately still ends up needing the fulfillment of being with woody (contradictory?)

my kids said it was basically just a bunch of scenes stitched together

now it's not HORRIBLE, its just kinda there. which after three of the best kids movies ever was a definite letdown. very much, imho, reminiscent of one of those "straight to video" sequels Disney was doing a minute ago (Aladdin 2, Lion King 2, etc). Definitely better than all that minions, life of pets tier stuff, but I think the standard should be higher

I dunno how y'all define money grab, but to me its a fair-to-middling effort put forth simply because you know you'll make money off it

and this was very much that

it didn't do anything to justify all that time - almost a decade - and the risk of tarnishing what was was pretty much a perfect trilogy. The question going was in was "did we NEED this, what will we get that adds to what we already have?", and after seeing it the answer is "nah, nothing really"

  

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Toy Story 4 [View all] , bwood, Mon Nov-12-18 08:04 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Im not so sure
Nov 12th 2018
1
Tom Hanks made everyone leave the room...
Nov 12th 2018
2
This bout to be sad as fuck aint it?
Nov 12th 2018
3
didn't need to happen, but since it is means it's probably good
Nov 14th 2018
4
Full trailer
Mar 19th 2019
5
Tickets copped for 6/19/2019
Jun 12th 2019
6
Excellent coda/epilogue
Jun 18th 2019
7
So its not just a cash grab?
Jun 20th 2019
8
      It mos def is not.
Jun 20th 2019
9
Good, although it's not as good as the last one.
Jun 23rd 2019
10
Yep. I’m right here with it. Really good, and not a cash grab
Jun 23rd 2019
11
      Yep.
Jun 24th 2019
13
Damn that was good
Jun 30th 2019
14

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