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25. "It's kind of a mess. (spoilers)"
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Props to Luca for having a ton of ideas-- historical fascism allegory! topple the patriarchy! giallo gore fest!-- but they did not balance well imo. Combine that with the fact that he chooses like five different visual styles that he shifts between depending how he's feeling, and... yeah, it's not boring, it's just all over the place.

Tilda as Old Man is, as Deebot put it, dumb. He's the patriarchal character, but they want it to be played by a woman, but they also want no one to be able to tell it's a woman with photo-realistic makeup and a fake actor name... huh? Combine that with the fact that his/her storyline is faaaaaar less interesting than the rest of the movie, and it really drags the rest of the movie.

I also agree with Deebot that I was emotionally disconnected, likely due to the revelation that Susie is, in fact, the Mother of Sighs. I hardly felt anything resembling a "journey" from her, and she doesn't seem terribly conflicted about anything going on. Dakota Johnson also, while she's terrific at playing the lording Mother in the finale, really doesn't give me much for the first 2 hours and 15 minutes of movie. It's obviously intentionally internalized, but that's... a tough choice to get me to care, especially in a movie like this. Mia Goth elicits a much greater emotional reaction from me, but it's deadened by the fact that her fate is projected a million years away-- she's clearly only there as witch fodder.

The few #WokeWitch bits mostly got eye rolls from me, and the fascist background mostly reminded me of regional Shakespeare adaptations-- "it's Taming of the Shrew, but in Gangland 1920s! It's King Lear but with Nazis!" etc. Individual lines/scenes work, but as I try to put it all together into something relatively coherent... I can't. Maybe I'm just stupid.

I can see why people would like it despite the mess-- Lord knows I've loved some messy movies in my day-- but this didn't really do it for me. I admire Luca for putting his shit all the way out there and for taking his clout from his last two movies and saying "ok I'm going to do something audacious and pretentious and insane like THIS" with it. But... yeah, it seems like it's got a buckshot approach to its Big Ideas, which diminishes the overall impact of the stuff that does work imo.

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Suspiria (Luca Guadagnino, 2018) [View all] , bwood, Mon Jun-04-18 12:02 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
The trailer is fucking incredible.
Jun 04th 2018
1
Understandable
Jun 04th 2018
2
      pass
Jun 05th 2018
3
           RE: pass
Jun 05th 2018
4
           you could be right
Jun 05th 2018
5
                i nearly pocketed her phone and told her i'd give it back later
Jun 05th 2018
6
                     So glad I can get to an Alamo Drafthouse
Jun 05th 2018
7
                          people really wanting to see something vs. it's something to do
Jun 05th 2018
8
                               Alamo Drafthouse is weird....but I love it
Jun 05th 2018
9
                                    I know how you feel
Jun 05th 2018
10
                                         Maaaan listen...
Jun 06th 2018
11
           Gore to me is like when they announce a movie is gonna have an R rating....
Aug 23rd 2018
14
New trailer is outstanding nigga.
Aug 23rd 2018
12
same
Aug 23rd 2018
13
Seeing this tonight. Not expecting a "horror" movie
Nov 02nd 2018
15
will see this tomorrow
Nov 02nd 2018
16
ooookay
Nov 03rd 2018
17
Loved this shit.
Nov 04th 2018
18
I liked it, didn't love
Nov 06th 2018
19
      agreed, it was confusing
Nov 06th 2018
20
           RE: agreed, it was confusing
Nov 07th 2018
21
                lol, oh
Nov 07th 2018
22
                dumb
Nov 08th 2018
23
                     ^^^
Nov 08th 2018
24
buckshot approach is right
Nov 09th 2018
26
^I give both your reviews an A
Nov 09th 2018
27
Individual scenes I thought were dope as fuck though (spoilers):
Nov 09th 2018
28

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