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35. "this shit made me so sad."
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if i were on that jury there's no way i could convict Steven or Brendan based solely on the evidence introduced at trial. there are too many holes in the state's theory.

- if Steven (and/or Brendan) kidnapped, raped, murdered and mutilated Teresa in Steven's trailer, garage and fire pit - why would Steven need to put Teresa's body in her SUV as evidenced by the blood and hair found in the back of the SUV? that says to me that Teresa was likely held and/or killed elsewhere and the killer or someone else may have used the SUV to move her or her body.

- if all of that ^ happened in Steven's trailer and garage there would've been much more of Teresa's DNA found. Steven isn't savvy enough to have sanitized the crime scene w/in 4 days such that none of Teresa's DNA was in the trailer and only that tiny trace was on a bullet fragment found DAYS after the police had secured the crime scene.

- Brendan's statements changed each time he told the story of what had happened. and he missed details only the killer(s) would have. i think. i need to get back into that part w/more depth. but most importantly - Brendan always started out telling the truth and when confronted by the interviewer's disbelief and alternate theory of the facts Brendan would agree w/the interviewer. he did this w/the cops, his mother, and his first lawyer's investigator. he is an entirely unreliable witness.

- Brendan's cousin Kayla should be scorned and shamed forever. but anyway, she's also unreliable. the state asked her which newscast she'd seen that had all of those gory details. umm...ALL OF THEM?!!? wtf???

...just. ugh.

and then of course there were the judges. i often feel like i'm trying my cases against the state AND the judge. i had that same feeling watching this.

and i think Steven's lawyers were great - except i winced HARD when Strang argued that the cops were framing Steven b/c they think he's guilty. b/c that argument lets the cops and the jury off the hook and makes it too easy for the jury to convict. i understand what he meant and i agree w/him but i wouldn't have made that argument. the state smartly picked up on it and told the jury that even if they disregard the planted evidence (bones in fire pit and blood in SUV) there's enough evidence to prove Steven's guilt. i disagree w/the state but that bit was set up in part by Strang's argument on this point.

the whole thing though...so sad. so sad.

fuck you.

  

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Netflix Has Done It Again: Making A Murderer [View all] , Reeq, Wed Dec-23-15 09:39 PM
 
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RE: Netflix Has Done It Again: Making A Murderer
Dec 23rd 2015
1
Incredible. Disheartening.
Jan 02nd 2016
2
It's incredibly well done. Better than Serial. But....
Jan 02nd 2016
3
At least here there's evidence pointing to a conspiracy.
Jan 02nd 2016
4
      That we only see the defense's case makes this so much more compelling
Jan 02nd 2016
5
      Evidence pointing to tampering for sure.
Jan 02nd 2016
6
           I didn't forget any of that.
Jan 02nd 2016
7
3 hours in I can't believe there are 7 more eps to watch
Jan 04th 2016
8
Quietly, one of the most problematic pieces of evidence to me was:
Jan 04th 2016
9
this ^^^
Jan 04th 2016
10
I keep coming back to this:
Jan 04th 2016
13
THIS and *spoilers?*
Jan 05th 2016
24
Damning evidence against Avery that was omitted from the doc (SWIPE):
Jan 04th 2016
11
Unfortunately, literally all of that evidence can be discredited.
Jan 04th 2016
12
      I mean, I agree to a large extent. The most ''damning'' thing to me...
Jan 04th 2016
14
      But who provided this testimony?
Jan 04th 2016
15
      plus if there's one thing that the Serial season 1 taught us
Jan 04th 2016
16
           This isn't even really true, though.
Jan 04th 2016
17
                more than I thought I he was bad, I thought he was dumb
Jan 04th 2016
19
                eh, I felt like these things were sorta written off n/m
Jan 05th 2016
22
      so the thing about this is...
Jan 04th 2016
18
      RE: so the thing about this is...
Jan 04th 2016
20
           I still don't love this line of reasoning...
Jan 04th 2016
21
      Strang refuted the "she was afraid to go back over" thing
Jan 08th 2016
29
      Does the law work this way, though?
Jan 08th 2016
30
Filmmakers: juror said he convicted out of "fear for his safety."
Jan 05th 2016
23
This thing is deeply affecting
Jan 05th 2016
25
Dean Strang is DAT DUDE
Jan 06th 2016
26
Im 5 eps in and dont know if I can continue...only because..
Jan 07th 2016
27
I pretty much finished every episode like...
Jan 08th 2016
28
Considering taking the plunge.
Jan 08th 2016
31
If you watch one episode, u will feel furious
Jan 08th 2016
32
      u keep watching hoping the situation gets better...its gotta right....
Jan 08th 2016
33
Finished it last week
Jan 08th 2016
34
I tried looking at this from all angles
Jan 11th 2016
36
i wonder if Steven's defense would be more persuasive today
Jan 11th 2016
37
      He just got some new counsel
Jan 11th 2016
38
           it won't matter if he's not granted a new trial.
Jan 11th 2016
39
This part was HUGE imo
Jan 11th 2016
40

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