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38. "For those of you complaining about the trailer *swipe*"
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This STAR TREK Trailer Is Too Action-Oriented

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/12/14/this-star-trek-trailer-is-too-action-oriented

What's with all the fighting? Where's the exploring?

By Devin Faraci Dec. 14, 2015

This Star Trek trailer is just all action. Where the exploration?

Yeah, I'm writing another piece about today's Star Trek Beyond trailer. And yeah, that's the trailer for Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan. And yeah, I'm making a point.

Two of them. The first, shortest point is: this is a trailer intended to get general audiences interested. It's a trailer that is being attached to Star Wars, and it's a trailer selling a movie that is following up the dour and destructive Star Trek Into Darkness. Just as that Khan trailer was selling a Trek movie to non-Trek audiences, so is the Beyond trailer.

Second, Star Trek has always been fun. Let's assume the 90 seconds we saw represent the film: so? The original Trek had two pilots: a talky, more cerebral one that the network declined and a more pulpy one that ended with Kirk fist fighting a god and then killing him with a cascade of rocks. I like the second one much better, if we're being honest. And that one set the tone for the original show.

The original Trek was pitched as a space Western - Wagon Train to the Stars. This was at a time when the Western was among the most populist, action-oriented forms of storytelling around. That was no mistake. Trek was conceived as an adventure show that would smuggle in deeper thoughts alongside the fun that appealed to audiences.

It wasn't just a Western - Trek changed genres almost weekly. There were spy stories and gangster stories, war stories and murder mysteries featuring Jack the Ripper. There were submarine stories and light comedy stories. Often the scifi was used like magic - an excuse to get the characters into certain kinds of actions, like having them fight Ghenghis Khan. The original Trek rarely ended stories by reversing the dilithium crystal chamber or by having a heart-to-heart with the enemy; there were a lot of fights and plenty of space battles, and Captain Kirk often used his wits in adverserial ways.

If Trek could be a different genre every week, why can't it be a Fast & Furious movie, as some people think Beyond will be? That, of course, is based on the presence of one motorcycle, which is the modern equivalent of the cowboy's horse and Trek was created as a space Western, but whatever. You don't have to agree that Kirk - an avid horseman, we know - would ride a motorcyle (despite it being established in Star Trek 2009) to understand that Star Trek is flexible enough to be any genre at all, as long as it's with these characters.

That's the first key to what Trek is - stories about these characters. The other key is that these stories need to tell us something about our world today, or about what it means to be human. Will Beyond have that? It's hard to say based on a 90 second teaser, and it's safe to assume it won't be as on-the-nose as the space hippies in Way to Eden or the racial strife of the black and white people in Let This Be Your Last Battlefield, but there is dialogue ("This is where the frontier pushes back") and a scene of something being revealed to Scotty that indicate Justin Lin, with Simon Pegg co-writing the script, may have smuggled something into this. We'll have to wait and see.

But then again that Wrath of Khan trailer doesn't tell you anything about the larger themes and character arcs at play. It really just tells you there's some killer space action in the movie. Would you have walked away from that trailer complaining that this was Trek in name only? I mean, Roddenberry apparently did, and that's why we ended up with the tedium of Next Generation. But my Star Trek is made up of genre-oriented adventure stories featuring great characters and with a kernel of social messaging at the core. So far nothing in that Star Trek Beyond trailer tells me this will be any different.

Thanks to my brother Derek for remembering this Khan trailer.

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America from 9:00 on: https://youtu.be/GUwLCQU10KQ

  

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Star Trek Beyond (Lin, 2016) [View all] , bwood, Fri May-09-14 11:37 AM
 
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I tweeted the first page of Orci's script:
May 09th 2014
1
LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 09th 2014
3
actually--
May 09th 2014
4
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/birthday-surprise.gif
May 09th 2014
5
I'll see it, but it lessens my excitement in a major way
May 09th 2014
2
know nothing about him
May 09th 2014
6
I'm still mad about 2 and issues were all plot
May 09th 2014
7
May 14th 2014
8
May 14th 2014
9
Not me. Peace.
May 15th 2014
10
So he wrote the first two movies and people saw them
May 15th 2014
11
A lot of it has to do with his personal politics, I'm sure.
May 15th 2014
12
RE: A lot of it has to do with his personal politics, I'm sure.
May 15th 2014
14
Just because he wrote the last 2 doesn't mean he can direct.
May 15th 2014
13
I hear you
May 15th 2014
15
      This is coming from someone who loved the 1st and enjoyed the 2nd
May 16th 2014
16
           i just watched into darkness again and its definitely not good
May 18th 2014
17
Exactly
May 18th 2014
18
Stop that shit. nm
May 18th 2014
20
The first one was good, but a bit silly.
May 18th 2014
19
I mean, the cast and the visuals helped close the writing gap on 1 & 2.
May 18th 2014
22
idgaf. these new Treks have been dope.
May 18th 2014
21
Orci is NOT directing this shit niggas!!!! *swipe*
Dec 05th 2014
23
I thought of you and this post the second I heard about this. lol
Dec 05th 2014
24
      Dawg, I'm doing backflips right now.nm
Dec 05th 2014
25
           Same here. It's a shame he's got any involvement whatsoever though
Dec 05th 2014
26
                I was gettin' serious David Goyer vibes.
Dec 05th 2014
27
Star Trek: Beyond first trailer
Dec 14th 2015
28
Shit looks horrible, B.
Dec 14th 2015
29
Yeah, original script was too "Star Trek-y"
Dec 14th 2015
30
looks really bad.
Dec 14th 2015
32
I like the concept of them being stuck on a planet
Dec 14th 2015
31
the 'concept' was already done in Search For Spock
Dec 14th 2015
34
      Everything's already been done.
Dec 14th 2015
35
My goodness that looks horrible.
Dec 14th 2015
33
I'm fine with it
Dec 14th 2015
36
It's a teaser, of course it's gonna show nothing but action.
Dec 14th 2015
37
I don't think it's fair to judge too much from a teaser
Dec 14th 2015
39
Looks like shit. Justin Lin was a horrible choice
Dec 15th 2015
44
I have no problem with the this teaser nor the reboot
Dec 14th 2015
40
      RE: I have no problem with the this teaser nor the reboot
Dec 18th 2015
45
wtf with the music choice??????!!!!!!!!!!
Dec 14th 2015
41
It's a callback to the first movie of the reboot
Dec 14th 2015
42
      They played it in the second one too.
Dec 15th 2015
43
Simon Pegg's reaction to the trailer
Dec 20th 2015
46
New trailer is much, much better
May 20th 2016
47
They got rid of that jock rock soundtrack.
May 21st 2016
48
wow it does look way way better
May 21st 2016
49
Well damn, that looks like a whole different movie.
May 21st 2016
50
Definitely looks better. That said
May 21st 2016
51
(c) the Inception trailer
May 26th 2016
53
If this happens, I'm not seeing Star Wars 3 *swipe*
May 22nd 2016
52
This really good niggas
Jul 18th 2016
54
Alright, I'ma trust you on this...
Jul 19th 2016
55
Well now I'm just plain geeked
Jul 19th 2016
56
damn I didnt know Idris was in this one too
Jul 19th 2016
58
91% on Rotten Tomatoes niggas
Jul 19th 2016
57
DIsposable fun.
Jul 21st 2016
59
RE: DIsposable fun.
Jul 22nd 2016
61
      I felt like she didn't do much.
Jul 22nd 2016
62
It was really good, and I'm probably OKP's #1 Trekkie.
Jul 22nd 2016
60
i agree, favorite reboot....i think it's 3rd on my list of trek movies r...
Jul 24th 2016
63
I was incredibly surprised
Jul 25th 2016
65
Agreed wholeheartedly. The best of the bunch.
Jul 31st 2016
71
It was ok.
Jul 25th 2016
64
it was good fun
Jul 29th 2016
66
Thought it was the best of the Kelvin timeline
Jul 29th 2016
67
finally y'all edited that stupid ass title..movie was great, best of the
Jul 31st 2016
68
You never stop being a cornball do you?
Jul 31st 2016
69
It's a fun movie.
Jul 31st 2016
70
Dope Flick. I wish it was a bit longer and had more battle scenes
Aug 01st 2016
72
Better than I expected
Aug 02nd 2016
73
Overall, very good, but there were a few issues i had
Aug 03rd 2016
74
Just saw it, like it, similar issues
Aug 07th 2016
76
      i assumed the boarding parties/pilots
Aug 07th 2016
80
fourth movie confirmed, hopefully we see the Borg
Aug 03rd 2016
75
But the Borg is not in this timeline.
Aug 07th 2016
77
Anything is possible in this timeline since the split
Aug 07th 2016
78
the borg are. there was a borg episode on enterprise
Aug 07th 2016
79
      Borg will not be the same if they are in the movies
Aug 09th 2016
82
           it would be fun to see a wink at q
Aug 09th 2016
83
I'd like very much not to see the Borg
Aug 09th 2016
81
Good this movie was terrible. Really really bad.
Mar 27th 2017
84

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