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The Analyst
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18. "I entirely agree with everything you said here..."
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Sat Jul-20-13 11:01 AM by The Analyst

  

          

>It's way more Valhalla Rising than Drive. That is to say,
>very little dialogue, tons of sensory nightmarish visuals,
>very little point other than "the experience of going through
>it," etc.
>
>I liked a lot about it. Refn's use of music, sound, and
>lighting are top drawer. Gosling does nothing here really, but
>Kristin Scott Thomas is gloriously campy and the dude who's
>the bad guy is darkly hilarious. I really like how surreal
>Refn makes the film.

It's incredibly surreal and that aspect of it more or less worked for me too. You really can't get bogged down with reality with a movie like this. IMO, the best way to approach it is to try to turn off your mind and plug into its frequency

>But again, it's pretty vacuous in terms of actual character
>development. It's not about the people in it, it's about the
>nightmare of the circumstances. Refn described it in a
>pre-screening interview as an acid trip whereas Drive was
>really good coke. Seems more or less accurate to me.
>
>People who hated Drive will HAAAAATE this. People who liked
>Drive will likely find themselves conflicted over this film's
>good and bad, as I am.

Refn's comments make sense, and if he wants to say it's supposed to be like an acid trip, that's fine. The problem I think for a lot of people is that it really does feel extremely pretentious. Some people might not care about that. But, it seems to take itself incredibly seriously and I think as it goes on and on it sort of unknowingly devolves into self-parody.

Still, from a technical perspective, holy shit. It looks fucking glorious. Every shot is framed exquisitely. The colors are vibrant and put to incredible use. It's very crisply edited. I also loved how the score drifted back and fourth from organic strings to electronic synthesizers. It was just one of many elements of contrast in the film (along with the strong contrast between blue and red, night and day, surrealism and naturalism, violence and serenity, etc.) which I guess is supposed to underscore Gosling's internal conflict. Too bad the whole is less than the sum of its parts, but I think it might be the best looking film I've seen this year.

I think it's a personal movie. I think it's Refn trying to manifest some dark corner of his psyche on the screen. I think it has a lot to do with sexual anxieties and frustrations. I also think it could have been a short film - like 45-55 minutes - and it wouldn't have lost a whole lot.

Still interested in seeing what Refn does next. If he can put his technical virtuosity to better use next time, look out.


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Only God Forgives (Nicolas Winding Refn, 2013) [View all] , Mageddon, Wed Apr-03-13 07:42 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Not even gonna watch it. I know I'm in.
Apr 03rd 2013
1
^
Apr 29th 2013
9
"how could anybody not like him?" - Mrs. Seinfeld. n/m
Apr 03rd 2013
2
GOSDAWG
Apr 03rd 2013
3
Watch six (disjointed) minutes of scenes from the film
Apr 27th 2013
4
If there ever is GTA film, Refn should direct
Apr 28th 2013
5
I tried reccomending that in Hi Tech and they roasted me
Apr 28th 2013
7
god damn when is this coming out?!
Apr 28th 2013
6
Drive 2?
Apr 29th 2013
8
what's it about, I don't give a fuck. IN!!!
Apr 29th 2013
10
it got annihilated at Cannes.
Jun 01st 2013
11
Style over substance in the manner of Valhalla Rising?
Jun 01st 2013
12
"Taxi Driver" was booed at Cannes too.
Jul 22nd 2013
22
      Well, it also won the Palme d'Or at Cannes...
Jul 22nd 2013
23
Saw this at LAFF. Really conflicted.
Jul 09th 2013
13
Loved 'Drive'....
Jul 21st 2013
19
It's out today. Gotta ticket for tonight's showing at Music Box.
Jul 19th 2013
14
Currently available on iTunes and VOD.
Jul 19th 2013
15
dude thank you so much for the heads up!
Jul 19th 2013
16
damn 37% on Rotten Tomatoes
Jul 19th 2013
17
i might watch this again... there's a whole other level going on btwn
Jul 21st 2013
20
Meh.
Jul 22nd 2013
21
It's like that girl who is really pretty but not engaging at all.
Jul 22nd 2013
24
An empty exercise in style so...
Jul 22nd 2013
25
So
Jul 22nd 2013
26
more than meets the eye...
Jul 23rd 2013
27
What was there that I didn't get?
Nov 25th 2013
43
This was utter garbage of a movie...and I liked Drive
Jul 23rd 2013
28
despite all the bad reviews i still need to see this
Jul 23rd 2013
29
I loved the Pusher trilogy, but Refn should stick to directing only.
Jul 23rd 2013
30
easy loathing.
Jul 23rd 2013
31
One odd redemption story that didn't quite come together.
Jul 24th 2013
32
i didn't like this at all
Jul 28th 2013
33
Much like Drive, this movie's still stuck in my brain, b
Jul 29th 2013
34
Same.
Jul 29th 2013
35
This was borderline great
Nov 17th 2013
36
Man this is the worst piece of shit I've ever seen.
Nov 22nd 2013
37
didn't even want to finish watching it
Nov 23rd 2013
38
It really was laughable
Nov 23rd 2013
40
it was pretty cool.
Nov 23rd 2013
39
Just saw this, and... It's meh.
Nov 24th 2013
41
RE: Only God Forgives (Nicolas Winding Refn, 2013)
Nov 25th 2013
42

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