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16. "After Jesse James, a massive disappointment. (no spoilers)"
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The tone for me was a big problem. I should say tones, not tone.

1. The visuals are all over the place tonally. Really gritty and dark at times, then out of nowhere chock a block with stylish camera shifts and polished effects. The type of movie that'll use shaky handheld in one scene, then five minutes later present you with slow motion special effects exquisitely framed. Felt like Dominik didn't want to make it dark, but didn't want to make it polished, so he just kinda winged it. Boy oh boy, did he miss Roger Deakins.

2. Same with the script's tone, really. Goes from nihilism to screwball in no time flat, goes from Mametian tough talk to political statement in no time flat, goes from moments of emotion to James Gandolfini making an anus joke in no time flat. Thus, the jokes never landed for me-- not one. And dark comedy is usually my bag. This just sounded like imitation Mamet minus the style.

3. I didn't have a problem with the overt political stuff... but Scott absolutely nailed that it makes very obvious proclamations without having anything to say. What's the statement? Americans like money? Coulda done that without the political stuff. Politicians are greedy liars? What's the point of telling it this way? It seems like it thinks it's being controversial and deep, when more or less every film noir has done these statements since the 1940s without the political clips.

4. The pacing is atrocious. This felt longer than Jesse James to me... which should say something. Jesse James felt very even keeled and smooth with its drawn out demeanor. This just sags. And again, "talky" movies are ABSOLUTELY my bag (Cosmopolis and Seven Psychopaths are two of my favorites this year). But it's got to be going somewhere, and it has to have a point, and it has to be properly paced.

The performances are all fine, especially Scoot McNairy, who has kind of ruled this year, and Ray Liotta, who is given very little to do but nails what he gets.

But this doesn't sniff Jesse James and has to be considered a massive disappointment considering the five year wait.

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Killing Them Softly (Dominik, 2012) [View all] , bwood, Thu May-10-12 06:57 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Some photos from the film
May 11th 2012
1
this movie looks awesome
May 11th 2012
2
BADASS POSTER!!!!
May 21st 2012
3
A reminder
May 22nd 2012
4
Inside Llewyn Davis might sneak in this year.
May 22nd 2012
5
First review is up,,,
May 23rd 2012
6
Some more reviews...
May 23rd 2012
7
New clip niggas!!!
May 25th 2012
8
Offical site
May 30th 2012
9
Finally a fucking trailer.
Aug 02nd 2012
10
i'm excited for this
Aug 02nd 2012
11
i'm in
Aug 06th 2012
12
Just saw it on the weekend.
Oct 21st 2012
13
Damn, some rough notices coming in for this one, huh?
Nov 29th 2012
14
just read Ebert's review. Did he not watch the movie?
Nov 30th 2012
17
      LOL, that happens to Ebert every now and then.
Nov 30th 2012
20
           you mean every time. he's a terrible reviewer and people need to stop
Dec 04th 2012
33
what a good freaking movie
Nov 30th 2012
15
^^^My initial reaction as well
Nov 30th 2012
18
Drive at least had a consistent style and tone.
Nov 30th 2012
19
      Style yeah but disagree on the tone
Dec 01st 2012
24
you just convinced me to not care about seeing it in theaters
Nov 30th 2012
21
I like the film.
Dec 01st 2012
22
Prodigy & Goodfellas already used that closing line better
Dec 01st 2012
23
      Yep.
Dec 01st 2012
27
just got back from a matinee
Dec 01st 2012
25
I can understand the mitigated reviews
Dec 01st 2012
26
The Radio/TV stuff reminded me...
Dec 01st 2012
28
Not good at all.
Dec 01st 2012
29
because it was shot in New Oreleans and they didn't really hide that fac...
Dec 01st 2012
30
This review sums pretty much sums it up to me
Dec 04th 2012
31
I think that review gives this way too much credit:
Dec 04th 2012
32
I don't get the hate..I thought it was solid but flawed
Dec 05th 2012
34
Probably the worst movie I paid to see this year.
Dec 05th 2012
35
      The heroin scene was the worst paced scene I've seen in 2012.
Dec 06th 2012
38
           I hated that scene with the fire of a thousand suns
Dec 06th 2012
39
                Directors need to stop this shit immediately:
Dec 06th 2012
40
                I don't give him credit for the heist scene though.
Dec 06th 2012
41
I think the hate on here is making me like it more haha
Dec 06th 2012
36
Soundtrack
Dec 06th 2012
37
This movie was good as hell
Dec 09th 2012
42
disappointed 2.5/5
Dec 09th 2012
43
Massive fucking disappointment. (spoilers)
Jan 07th 2013
44
you nailed it
Jan 07th 2013
45
Go back and watch this movie.
Jan 13th 2023
46
Very sneaky funny too, almost PTA levels at times
Jan 15th 2023
47

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