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13. "Yup. They value film as film. They try to figure out how they work."
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>Unlike film academics, these two really engage in the medium
>in a way that I think is exceptionally helpful for the writer
>and the director.

Most if not all artists have intentions. In a sense, Bordwell, Thompson, and their ilk reverse-engineer. I'm glad that they're not the only ones, but they are the most prominent and, IMO, the most readable and...best. While none of their books are manuals, they kind of are in that they can be, because, like you said, they're exceptionally helpful for the writer and director.

>They write much less about cultural context and much more
>about the actual craft of how these things are put together,
>what scenes/shots/sequences are trying to convey and how these
>succeed or fail, etc.

That's true. But, at the same time, critics of Bordwell and Thompson are wrong when they say cultural/social/political analysis is totally abandoned. Bordwell's monographs on Ozu, Dreyer, and Eisenstein (especially the Ozu one), place the artworks in cultural/social/politicial/historical context. Have you read Thompson's essay on Late Spring in "Breaking the Glass Armor"? She wrote about how the depiction in the film is radical in Japanese cultural terms. Great stuff.

>Bordwell's book on Ozu could serve as the basis for not just a
>course, but an entire film school curriculum (or at least one
>taught by me).

Co-sign. I wish there were more director monographs like it. Overwhelmingly thorough (in a great way). I hope he writes a Hou or Kiarostami monograph someday.

  

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Best Books On Screenwriting? [View all] , little bredren, Fri Feb-10-12 02:00 PM
 
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The Screenwriter's Workship by Syd Field is great
Feb 10th 2012
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scriptshadow.blogspot.com
Feb 10th 2012
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The one Thomas Lennon wrote
Feb 10th 2012
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^^^ one of two I live by
Feb 11th 2012
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The Devil's Guide To Hollywood by Joe Eszterhas
Feb 11th 2012
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o so no post mentioning.........
Feb 12th 2012
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want to co-sign Bordwell and Thompson
Feb 13th 2012
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           RE: Yup. They value film as film. They try to figure out how they work.
Feb 14th 2012
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Another good recent book I read about being a money making...
Feb 12th 2012
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I beieve that's the Thomas Lennon one menionted above
Feb 12th 2012
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RE: Best Books On Screenwriting?
Feb 12th 2012
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Public Access E-Books (screenwriter interviews):
Feb 13th 2012
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Can we get an archive on this?
Feb 13th 2012
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