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"So, WILL SMITH is more ARTISTIC than JOHNNY DEPP"
Wed Sep-16-09 10:00 AM by Orbit_Established

  

          


Hi PTP. How are you? I'm doing fine, thanks for
asking. No cussing or screaming from me today.

I'm happy. Life is john blaze. : )


Okay, so its abundantly clear that Johnny Depp isn't
the acting purist or pure artist that Will Smith is. Odd
when you consider that Depp got his start as an actor,
while Smith had to grind his way to the top starting out
as a rapper.

Now, I realize that Will Smith is to PTP what 50 Cent
is to the Lesson, but bear with me:


Smith takes way, way, more risks.

Smith rides the nuts of way, way, way, fewer
established artists and filmmakers.

Smith's films have faaaar fewer gimmicks

Smith stars in films with far fewer *other* stars.

Smith exerts creative control over his projects in
a way that's at least commendable.

Smith has ascended the Hollywood ladder, funding and
bankrolling interesting and innovative projects.


I'm not going to focus on TALENT here. Nor is this
discussion about 'bers', because that's no discussion.

This is about artistic integrity.


To Depp:

Depp is currently about to sign on to do a FOURTH
film based on a Disney amusement park ride:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates_of_the_Caribbean_(theme_park_ride)


Depp just did 'Public Enemies', which was not risque or
artistic. It was a good gangster movie and it had
Christian Bale in it. Mobster biopics tend to do
well.


Depp just finished ANOTHER Tim Burton remake...LOL...
(Alice in Wonderland) where he'll be smiling/frowing and acting
like a fucking weirdo for 100 minutes (odd how people criticize
Keanu Reeves and Will Smith for acting the same in every movie,
and ignore Johnny Depp for doing the same thing...Depp's range
is actually pretty pathetic...besides the point, though).


Depp did that 'Imaginarium' film, but that one
has Heath Ledger in it, which is a huge gimmick, and
he wouldn't have bothered were Ledger not in it.


Depp did to 'the Libertine', and good for him.


All in all, Depp seems to be doing more commercial shit
as his career movies along, and does nothing to further
the craft by doing truly underground stories, or challenging
the status quo in any way on a consistent basis. He does TV
cameos every once in a while, and good for him.

He pretty much either plays a nut case, or that serious face
slow drawl bullshit that he does, like in 'Finding Forever'.

He generally has other big, big, stars in films with him,
and rides the creative wheel of Tim Burton in big budget
remakes, most of them terrible(like 'Chocolate Factory')





So,

What's Will Smith been doing?


I know you guys like to nitpick 'I Am Legend(unfairly,
again, mostly because Will Smith is in it)', but you do realize
that it was a *huge* risk that was potential flop: it was a sad,
dark sci fi/horror film, starring a guy that white people like to
see swoon and smile. Not to mention the Bob Marley themes, which
were 100% Will Smith.


(Note -- Will Smith and Denzel command paychecks for showing
their STRENGTH, not their weaknesses...white people like to see
niggas command shit, not be sad...white people don't really
empathize with black pain, which is why you'll never, ever, ever,
see black Erin Brokovich on the big screen...white people don't care)


Interesting how Smith continues to pick roles that show weak,
broken, sad characters:

- I am Legend, Pursuit of Happyness, 7 Pounds <--all had
disturbed characters.

Hell, even his goofy 'Hancock' was a huge risk that could
have easily flopped. He's not smiling and grinning in the
movie. He's a mad black man who flies around and fucks
shit up. I mean, goddamn.

The fact that 'Hancock' did huge numbers is not my point

We all know Smith cannot be beaten in that category.


I'm talking about ART.




And what about production?


How about producing 'The Secret Life of Bees?'

http://www.firstshowing.net/img/secret-life-of-bees-poster-full.jpg

^^A film starring a bunch of black women. Huuuuge risk. Did
decent numbers, and had critical acclaim. Wouldn't have
happened without Will Smith.




And Y'all do know that Smith is about to do this shit,
right ?


http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117991803.html?categoryid=13&cs=1


^^^A MOVIE ABOUT A BLACK PHARAOH <---HUUUUGGEEE RISK, and
guaranteed to make white people extremely mad.

I don't know or care if it'll do 'bers



Its a huge risk from a guy who has all the money in the world
and could easily sit back, smile, and continue to make films
that make your girlfriends cross their legs sitting in the
theater.





I know it stings, but this is a movement -- PTP will
stop being automatically mad at Will Smith.


Hell, soon I'll have y'all admitting that 'I Robot' is
the best Sci-Fi film of the 2000s(it most certainly was),
and admitting that 'Moon' was boring bullshit.



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So, WILL SMITH is more ARTISTIC than JOHNNY DEPP [View all] , Orbit_Established, Fri Sep-14-12 12:41 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
I think you worded this wrong,
Sep 16th 2009
1
Ok. That's a lame excuse, but I'll be nice about it.
Sep 16th 2009
2
      *sigh*
Sep 16th 2009
3
As two stars that can do whatever the hell they want at this point
Sep 16th 2009
4
cmon -- I, Robot sucked
Sep 16th 2009
5
No, it didn't, and you're furious about it.
Sep 16th 2009
19
      I, Robot the book? Yeah, top 3, possibly GOAT
Sep 16th 2009
34
           LOL - I was waiting for the "The book was great" response.
Sep 16th 2009
38
           http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/piss_grave4.jpg
Sep 22nd 2009
79
                I'm glad, because the book would have made a shitty movie
Sep 22nd 2009
83
who gives a shit? it's a free world.
Sep 16th 2009
6
The Bob Marley theme in I AM Legend...
Sep 16th 2009
7
i like em both.
Sep 16th 2009
8
You could kinda say the same thing about Depp tho.
Sep 16th 2009
9
      You're right.
Sep 16th 2009
10
'I, Robot' is not the best sci-fi film of the 2000s...
Sep 16th 2009
11
that comes from bad taste and mad making
Sep 16th 2009
14
Sunshine, Primer & A Scanner Darkly round out my top 3 sci-fi flicks
Sep 16th 2009
23
Holy shit. 'A Scanner Darkly' was fucking atrocious.
Sep 16th 2009
36
      agreed; that one was pretty bad
Sep 17th 2009
44
      Lol @ this coming from you
Sep 17th 2009
45
           'Scanner Darkly' = &quot;Watch on Mute Movie of the Decade&quot;
Sep 18th 2009
58
                Meh. I like the score & Downey's dialogue a lot. Shit's funny to me.
Sep 18th 2009
61
                     A score + RDJ dialogue = top 3 Sci Fi movie of the 2000s?
Sep 18th 2009
66
                          Will Smith screamin, "THE GODDAMN ROBOTS JOHN!!" = Goat?
Sep 19th 2009
69
                               Uh. You just told me your dumbass reasons.
Sep 19th 2009
70
                                    For not watchin it on mute dumbass. And that's all you get nitwit
Sep 19th 2009
72
sunshine is great
Sep 16th 2009
35
Minority Report? You're fucking joking, right?
Sep 16th 2009
17
      that's alot of laughing for someone who thinks 'I, Robot' is great.
Sep 16th 2009
32
           Fam, 'Minority Report' is absolute dogshit, and everyone knows it.
Sep 16th 2009
37
Tom Hanson >>>>> the Fresh Prince
Sep 16th 2009
12
Sam Rockell? Who's that?
Sep 16th 2009
20
      a better actor than will smith.
Sep 16th 2009
27
           But seriously - who the fuck is Sam Rockwell?
Sep 17th 2009
39
                For seriously - he's the guy who's a better actor than Will Smith
Sep 17th 2009
52
                     I'm designing my bathroom to the look like the set of 'Moon'
Sep 18th 2009
59
                          I'm designing a cyborg that wears converse all-stars
Sep 22nd 2009
74
                               *rimshot*
Sep 22nd 2009
75
                                    a cyborg homicide detective chasing killer robots... wearing chucks
Sep 22nd 2009
76
                                         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL8pBHfTT8s&feature=related
Sep 22nd 2009
77
                                              http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/i_robot.jpg <--ARTISTIC.
Sep 22nd 2009
78
                                                   lol.
Sep 22nd 2009
81
blah
Sep 16th 2009
13
lol
Sep 16th 2009
18
I, Robot isn't even the best Alex Proyas sci-fi movie of the 00s.
Sep 16th 2009
15
Is there a Depp-Smith rivalry I wasn't aware of?
Sep 16th 2009
16
At the 1991 Emmys, Peter DeLuise took Alfonso Ribeiro's seat
Sep 16th 2009
24
      LOL! Well played sir
Sep 16th 2009
26
      LMAO
Sep 16th 2009
29
      A+ posting..
Sep 16th 2009
33
      lol
Sep 17th 2009
41
Huh? Best sci fi of the 2000's?????
Sep 16th 2009
22
Haven't seen District 9 yet but
Sep 16th 2009
25
      mann if we talking about which movie was better WTF I care
Sep 16th 2009
28
           *kicks you in the groin except shoe gets stuck in your pus"
Sep 17th 2009
46
HAHA LOOK AT YOU. YA POSTS ALL BANGED UP!
Sep 16th 2009
30
Johnny Depp has never had artistic integrity, to be real about it.
Sep 16th 2009
31
Things you glossed over
Sep 17th 2009
43
      I disagree on Zac Efron.
Sep 17th 2009
48
           I whole heartedly agree with this...
Sep 17th 2009
54
Is that supposed to be some kind of daring assertion?
Sep 17th 2009
40
wait, i'm confused by these posts in here. I, Robot sucked?
Sep 17th 2009
42
everyone you know AND don't know says 'I Robot' is GOAT?
Sep 17th 2009
51
I read that too like, huh?
Sep 17th 2009
55
it's all hyerbole nm
Sep 17th 2009
56
      It ain't the hyperbole we're talking about fam...
Sep 18th 2009
57
i liked 'I, Robot' a LOT-
Sep 19th 2009
71
Im just here to hate on Will Smith
Sep 17th 2009
47
I stopped reading @ john blaze.
Sep 17th 2009
49
you are--easily--the worst poster I've seen on Okayplayer.
Sep 17th 2009
50
They would do a film about the LAST Kushite ruler of Egypt and not
Sep 17th 2009
53
The CGI was fucking horrible and unneeded
Sep 18th 2009
60
      & it was boooooooooooooring & not suspenseful @ all
Sep 18th 2009
62
I respect Johnny Depp for just doing films he LIKES...
Sep 18th 2009
63
Uh... what? Depp has done more Oscar hunting than Smith.
Sep 18th 2009
64
      I totally disagree. n/m
Sep 22nd 2009
80
           Bring em out then.
Sep 22nd 2009
84
                Anybody that can't see that is a total idiot.
Sep 23rd 2009
87
They're both commercial hacks.
Sep 18th 2009
65
you can say a lot against them, but "hacks" is a stretch
Sep 18th 2009
67
LOL, cosign.
Sep 18th 2009
68
RE: They're both commercial hacks.
Sep 22nd 2009
73
Depp is a bette actor than Smith
Sep 22nd 2009
82
No, he's not.
Sep 23rd 2009
85
Will Smith did an entire episode dedicated to Malcolm X...
Sep 23rd 2009
86

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