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42. "RE: The last line of the film..."
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>...shows that not only is what she did not okay, but it
>haunts her.

Well, what exactly Sister Aloysius has "doubts" about is purposely left open ended, which you know. But, again, if he look at through the prism of her getting Father Flynn to leave, and taking into context Flynn's opening speech, the fact that she has doubts redeems her in the eyes of the story. That she has doubts about what she actions, not her actions themselves, that are really important.

>Meanwhile, while Flynn suffered for a bit, his
>doubts in his ability to stay untarnished by the Sister get
>him promoted.

If anything, Flynn's promotion is suggested to be the result of the Church's sexism (alluded by Sister Aloysius throughout the film) and the diocese's desire to protect their own and run the Church as just another old boy's network. Shanley's basically alluding to the pattern of behavior that the Catholic Church followed during the rampant abuse scandals over the years.


>I'm glad someone has a different take, since it stirs up
>discussion. But I'm curious as to how you got such a boldly
>different, like wildly off the mark I've found,
>interpretation.

There's a lot of people in this thread seeing something in this of this film that they want to see. You yourself you saw the film as partially an allegory for the post 9-11 mindset. I'm not saying that interpreatation necessarily wrong, but that's your own interpretation of it.

You've got people all over this thread who think that the film is saying what Sister Aloysius did was wrong because they personally believe it's and can't believe that someone would write a play or a screenplay condoning those things. Hell, I think what she did is wrong, and that's why I'm annoyed that Shanley let's her off the hook. By making her "dobuts" the exclamation point to the film/play, it again suggests that she's just like the rest of us, and is worthy of our sympathy and doesn't deserve our scorn, because darn it, she was just trying what she believed was right. She stepped away from God to pursue justice, but her doubts bring her right back to God.

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DOUBT [View all] , queenisisdivine, Fri Dec-26-08 09:05 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
RE: DOUBT
Dec 27th 2008
1
tuesday
Dec 27th 2008
2
I cracked up at the little kid doin the mashed potatoes
Dec 28th 2008
3
That was funny.
Dec 28th 2008
7
Really solid, if unspectacular flick (SPOILERS)
Dec 28th 2008
4
RE: Really solid, if unspectacular flick (SPOILERS)
Dec 28th 2008
9
an absolute acting clinic by all three main actors...
Dec 28th 2008
5
Yes!
Dec 28th 2008
8
The acting was phenomenal, but I still found the film problematic
Dec 28th 2008
6
What was the film's overall message?
Dec 28th 2008
10
      Well ****SPOILERS, obviously****
Dec 28th 2008
11
           I disagree with ever sentance you wrote.
Dec 28th 2008
12
           Well, that's just a shame
Dec 28th 2008
14
                Yes, obviously SHE endorses those things...not the film though.
Dec 28th 2008
16
                     But the film was saying being resistant to chace is okay...
Dec 28th 2008
20
                          i don't think anyone agrees with your analysis
Jan 04th 2009
35
                          lol
Jan 05th 2009
36
                          I don't particularly care if anyone agrees with me or not
Jan 05th 2009
38
                          The last line of the film...
Jan 06th 2009
41
                              
                                    Okay, now that I've seen this, I'm ready. *puts in mouthguard*
Jan 06th 2009
43
           Why do you feel the film endorsed those things?
Dec 28th 2008
13
           RE: Why do you feel the film endorsed those things?
Dec 28th 2008
15
                Streep's character was scared of change, but the film wasn't.
Dec 28th 2008
17
                     True.
Dec 28th 2008
18
                     RE: Streep's character was scared of change, but the film wasn't.
Dec 28th 2008
19
           I'm sorry, my dude, but I think you missed it.
Dec 29th 2008
22
           You're 100% accurate
Dec 29th 2008
24
           ^^^ The response I was looking for.
Dec 29th 2008
25
           I can only speak on my own interpretations of what I saw
Dec 29th 2008
26
                I think you're almost there, but you're still missing it.
Dec 30th 2008
28
           ^^watched a different movie
Dec 30th 2008
27
                lol
Jan 05th 2009
37
i enjoyed it. *spoilers*
Dec 29th 2008
21
Sparked some excellent drive home discussion
Dec 29th 2008
23
Absolutely brilliant script and performances
Dec 30th 2008
29
LOL! I didn't want to mention it, fam
Dec 30th 2008
30
      After he aint throw a hissy-fit with arms flailing after *spoiler*......
Dec 31st 2008
31
      He did look EXACTLY like Andrew Bynum.
Jan 06th 2009
44
RE: DOUBT
Dec 31st 2008
32
great story.
Jan 01st 2009
33
RE: Belief Systems Shattered
Jan 02nd 2009
34
this is movie is great and leaves for great discussion...
Jan 05th 2009
39
I'll talk more later, but it's great.
Jan 06th 2009
40
Solid, but not great.
Jan 29th 2009
45
the last line bothered me, too
Feb 02nd 2009
46
the acting in this movie is AMAZING
Feb 02nd 2009
47
I wasnt feelin (no pun) PSH as the priest @ 1st but he killed it
Feb 03rd 2009
48
Strongest film of the year
Feb 08th 2009
49
      i thought this was much better than the reader
Feb 08th 2009
50
up for DVD
Jul 11th 2009
51
Doubt 2: Doubt Harder
Jul 11th 2009
52
most gangsterest nun ever
Jan 01st 2010
53
it was okay.
Jan 01st 2010
54

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