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46. "RE: Blue man is going to probably have at least 30-45 minutes worth"
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>of character development to get you used to the character, he
>is a major part of the movie The squid was one page in the
>comic.>>>

As long as you don't count the mystery surrounding the island, the disappearing artists and psychics. The alien reveal was the culmination of all that.

>
>It was less about the nukes, and more about stopping humanity
>from destroying itself, it's an end of the world story.
>Sacrificing 50 mil or so to save 7 Bil is worth it in Ozzy
>math
>

Humans were going to destroy each other through the use of nukes. It's the whole part where even if a nuke goes off in NY, there's radioactive fallout that's going to get the rest of the country. If dude can find a way to set off nukes and have no radioactive fall out, then fine. Otherwise...

>The idea is that they needed to unite against a foreign third
>party, Manhattan fits the bill perfectly imho because 1)He
>basically is alien and 2)Something so weird will be easily
>feared.
>

I'm not actually against them using Manhattan as a scapegoat. I do fully believe that even if a US agent goes rogue, then the US would still get blamed. "You should have put down that mad dog when you had a chance!" And, while they did show that he was powerful, they also outlined that he was still able to be killed. I think Ozymandias would foresee that.


>Im in the audience, ive watched these fucked up characters
>deal with their fucked up issues, their powers explained and
>quickly forgotten because watchmen has very little to do with
>'super powers' as far as themes are concerned...
>>>>

Manhattan's power was a big theme. Which would actually help the argument for putting it on him.

>Then suddenly I get my 'Oh Shit!' moment of they took it
>there...
>
>Then there's a CGI squid rumbling around in Manhattan a la a
>Godzilla for ten seconds...before they go back to discussing
>the fate of mankind and the original theme of the movie, lol.
>

Worked for the comic.

Like I've said, I'm not truly against Dr. Manhattan being blames for this. I just find the idea that the using the alien would be too much is laughable.

We bitch and moan about how the studios think we're stupid, then parrot the same excuses whenever something remotely non-reality based happens in a scifi/superhero movie. They won.

Fun is the new gritty

  

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WATCHMEN: Wanna find out about the squid? *SPOILER* [View all] , Frank Longo, Mon Nov-17-08 05:37 PM
 
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RE: WATCHMEN: Wanna find out about the squid? *SPOILER*
Nov 17th 2008
1
Newsarama Swipe
Nov 18th 2008
27
      Commenter tfg made the perfect pro-squid argument (swipe)
Nov 19th 2008
76
Dude's plea copping is kind of ridiculous. ***SPOILERS***
Nov 17th 2008
2
Agreed that it's plea copping. However...
Nov 17th 2008
3
As said in another post...
Nov 17th 2008
4
I like this explanation for why the squid might not work:
Nov 17th 2008
5
and there you have it -- the rest is just nitpicking
Nov 17th 2008
7
Then what? Comedian's going to see the nuke map?
Nov 18th 2008
25
Uh, the squid's presence takes more than two minutes
Nov 18th 2008
33
      Veidt's gotta explain, then, how he's framing Manhattan
Nov 18th 2008
63
           RE: Veidt's gotta explain, then, how he's framing Manhattan
Nov 18th 2008
65
                No, sir, I don't like it.
Nov 18th 2008
66
                     yup..the whole point of Laurie being there is lost
Nov 18th 2008
71
I think thats the point
Nov 18th 2008
29
I don't think it's a man-made weapon. I think he's gonna frame
Nov 18th 2008
34
      See above on Jon's character
Nov 19th 2008
72
EXACTLY. CHUUURCH
Nov 18th 2008
30
      RE: EXACTLY. CHUUURCH
Nov 18th 2008
39
           Blue man is going to probably have at least 30-45 minutes worth
Nov 18th 2008
42
               
                     In this case I don't think it's too stupid
Nov 18th 2008
51
                          see, this was my arguement below
Nov 18th 2008
60
                          RE: In this case I don't think it's too stupid
Nov 18th 2008
68
I guess I don't see why the squid is so sacred
Nov 17th 2008
6
      It's not that the Squid is sacred......
Nov 17th 2008
9
           exactly
Nov 17th 2008
10
           RE: exactly
Nov 17th 2008
15
                I think it will be an even more powerful statement...
Nov 17th 2008
18
           It's not gonna be a bomb.
Nov 18th 2008
35
                that sucks too
Nov 18th 2008
43
                     even if he blows up NY?
Nov 18th 2008
45
                          hmmm
Nov 18th 2008
49
I'm wary of filmmakers claiming their audience won't accept something...
Nov 17th 2008
17
      true but there are so many narrow minded people
Nov 17th 2008
19
           "Cuts had to be made" doesn't fly
Nov 17th 2008
20
           RE: true but there are so many narrow minded people
Nov 18th 2008
26
           Thank you
Nov 18th 2008
28
           RE: Thank you
Nov 18th 2008
40
           i know it wasn't a cut he made. i never said that
Nov 18th 2008
37
           People are narrow minded until they see something new.
Nov 18th 2008
48
well it wasn't Zack that said it was a "sacrifice"
Nov 18th 2008
32
      RE: well it wasn't Zack that said it was a "sacrifice"
Nov 18th 2008
41
I'm a squid fan...but not having it isn't a dealbreaker
Nov 17th 2008
8
the people will unite behind their hatred of Dr. Manhattan
Nov 18th 2008
36
      see above
Nov 18th 2008
44
i'm looking forward to the DVD more than the theatrical release.
Nov 17th 2008
11
Dr. manhattan.
Nov 18th 2008
38
Was Cloverfield really that popular?
Nov 17th 2008
12
i think people still remember the disappointment/befuddlement
Nov 17th 2008
13
The Host murdered that movie for me.....
Nov 17th 2008
14
      but...they *did* bite the dust
Nov 18th 2008
22
i said this in the trailer post but yeah, i'm not trippin about it
Nov 17th 2008
16
i gotta be honest. i thought the squid was weird too.
Nov 17th 2008
21
I can live without the squid
Nov 18th 2008
23
Copied and pasted as I said before
Nov 18th 2008
24
Nah, I disagree
Nov 18th 2008
31
What if they blow up Moscow, England, Tokyo, AND NYC
Nov 18th 2008
47
RE: What if they blow up Moscow, England, Tokyo, AND NYC
Nov 18th 2008
50
      Exactly
Nov 18th 2008
52
      I don't know tho. Look at Hiroshima
Nov 18th 2008
53
           yeah -- WWII sure put an end to nuclear threats!
Nov 18th 2008
54
           Ha, what Im saying is we created something to end the world
Nov 18th 2008
56
           RE: I don't know tho. Look at Hiroshima
Nov 18th 2008
55
           I'm not really following you
Nov 18th 2008
57
                Yeah, its kinda shaky i admit
Nov 18th 2008
58
      exactly, Dr. Manhattan doing it wouldn't be sufficient at all
Nov 18th 2008
59
I have no idea what ya'll are talking about... that being said
Nov 18th 2008
61
don't feel bad..
Nov 18th 2008
62
Hypothetical Solution?: Veidt Made the Squid
Nov 18th 2008
64
That's not hypothetical, that's what happened
Nov 18th 2008
67
      No I think he means Veidt makes it all himself
Nov 19th 2008
73
           No. He's right.
Nov 19th 2008
74
Does anyone notice that Heroes..
Nov 18th 2008
69
Yup. Also remember that Sylar was a watchmaker.
Nov 18th 2008
70
I think the respective events in Heroes and Watchmen are based on this.....
Nov 19th 2008
75

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