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59. "I think both Ebert and Mondello were right on the money"
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Mon Sep-29-08 07:16 PM by ZooTown74

  

          

"In one of the first scenes in "Miracle at St. Anna," a black man watches John Wayne in "The Longest Day" on television, and whispers, 'Pilgrim, we fought for this country too,' a line that Lee himself wrote into James McBride's screenplay....

He also needed the right source material, which came along in McBride's 2002 book, a fictionalized account of four Buffalo Soldiers that was based on McBride's extensive research. On the heels of his 2006 commercial success, 'Inside Man,' Lee enlisted McBride to write the screenplay. McBride found his director to be very demanding. 'But he's very demanding of himself,' says the writer, who adds that Lee pushed him most of all to create 'multidimensional' characters, whether they were African American, Italian partisans or Nazi officers."

- Los Angeles Times, September 25, 2008


If Spike had cut, say, 15 minutes (including, as much as it pains me to say this, the John Leguizamo cameo with the UNBELIEVABLY HOT Italian woman straddling him... which led to the ridiculousness of the paper flying out of the window and right into Older Angelo's hands... cmon, Spike, cmon), this would have been a tight, focused, epic-scaled film...

In its current state, however, it's damn good... but then again, I'm not sure we need the 80's framework... that just pads the running time and tries to get us engaged in a mystery that I really didn't care about... as the setup went on and on, I kept waiting for the jump backward to 1944 so the actual story could begin...

... that said, I don't know what I would cut from the middle of the film. I would have, however, pulled back on the Train-Angelo stuff, only because it distracted from the story that I was really interested in, and that was the soldiers... but then again, how much to you cut back and not hurt the main story?

One sequence that definitely would NOT get cut is the one in the Louisiana diner... I thought that was great, and it ended perfectly, with the GREAT shot of our heroes in Tuscany, facing the camera, then slowly peeling off, one by one, until there's the reveal that they're looking at the propaganda posters... I thought that sequence was EXTREMELY well-done... that's when the film really gained some momentum to me...

And my God, the St. Anna's massacre... it got kinda goofy near the end of it with Angelo, his brother, and the Germans, but before that... wow...

But in addition to the goofy framing device, I also didn't need the silly-ass love triangle that kinda developed... yes, Valentina Cervi is hot, and it was nice to see her boobies, but still... the "mack vs. upstanding Negro" rivalry for her affections felt like it needed to go in another movie... it would have been perfectly fine for neither one of them to end up with her, as it really added nothing but time padding onto the film (and provided yet more ammunition for critics -- black and white, pro or not -- of Spike's treatment of female characters in his films)...

Performance-wise, I thought Derek Luke was outstanding... Laz pulled his weight as well... but I wasn't that enamored with Michael Ealy, or Omar Benson Miller, for that matter... every time he said "Boy," for some reason I flashed back to Michael Clarke Duncan's repeated use of "Boss" in The Green Mile...

I also had no problem with Terence Blanchard's score blanketing the film...

I hate to run so hot and cold about this film, because I really liked MOST of it a lot...


... also, shout-out to revered PTP favorite George Lucas, who is listed as a benefactor in the closing credits (and yes, we know he's planning on making a black WWII film)...
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The Official Miracle At St. Anna Post [View all] , Frank Longo, Fri Sep-26-08 12:15 AM
 
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Or, rather than copying the best review available, how about Bob Mondelo
Sep 26th 2008
1
this is the 1st negative (?) review of the film that i respected
Sep 26th 2008
2
I dont get this here
Sep 26th 2008
3
they come from guns
Sep 26th 2008
9
He means he doesn't set up the battlefield
Sep 27th 2008
20
Hmm.He doesn't give a full conclusion,but it's still a well-written revi...
Sep 26th 2008
6
Well, I copied the best reviewer available. Ebert is the GOAT.
Sep 26th 2008
10
yes, the GOAT...you know whats coming, right?
Sep 27th 2008
14
      http://i33.tinypic.com/2qdx5qq.gif
Sep 27th 2008
15
      Nah, if you REALLY want to get things going
Sep 27th 2008
21
      LOL at "He teaches film at Harvard, for chrissakes"
Sep 27th 2008
24
      The GOAT ain't perfect. But he's still the GOAT.
Sep 27th 2008
25
           Pretty much nm
Sep 27th 2008
27
           Siskel was better. n/m
Oct 05th 2008
77
i just saw it *maybe spoilers*...
Sep 27th 2008
23
      RE: i just saw it *maybe spoilers*...
Sep 27th 2008
26
      RE: I might see it again also
Sep 29th 2008
53
I agree 100% with Ebert's opening & closing paragraphs.
Sep 26th 2008
4
Ebert's first paragraph best explains the movie
Sep 26th 2008
5
I walked out twenty minutes in
Sep 26th 2008
7
L
Sep 26th 2008
8
W
Nov 02nd 2008
90
Ebert has the best analysis of anyone...
Sep 26th 2008
11
The thing that I love love LOVE about Ebert...
Sep 27th 2008
12
      I wholeheartedly agree
Sep 27th 2008
16
Ebert's first paragraph describes this film perfectly....
Sep 27th 2008
13
I dont agree with his comments on the opening scene
Sep 27th 2008
17
Spike always has bad endings though...
Sep 27th 2008
18
yea true, but this is 2008 lol he needs to change that
Sep 27th 2008
19
RE: Spike always has bad endings though...
Sep 27th 2008
22
another case of the Spike Lee ending
Sep 28th 2008
42
I thought Hec looked like Chiwetel Ejiofor with the old make-up
Sep 29th 2008
58
BO
Sep 27th 2008
28
massacre at st. anna
Sep 27th 2008
29
not half as bad as i thought it would be
Sep 27th 2008
30
How come Angelo.......(Spoiler, DUH)
Sep 27th 2008
31
RE: How come Angelo.......(Spoiler, DUH)
Sep 27th 2008
32
Yeah, that whole sequence made no sense....
Sep 27th 2008
33
i thought that Nazi was the one tired of the war....
Sep 28th 2008
36
exactly
Sep 28th 2008
40
It's still a lapse of common sense though.....
Sep 28th 2008
44
      that would be stupid and backwards
Sep 30th 2008
64
           just as stupid and backwards as handing the enemy a pistol.
Oct 01st 2008
72
The art dealers girl threw the paper
Oct 02nd 2008
74
      that was the most ridiculous shit ever
Oct 05th 2008
78
RE: How come Angelo.......(Spoiler, DUH)
Sep 27th 2008
34
wasn't he the officer who just wanted the war to be over?
Sep 28th 2008
39
RE: No, you weren't
Sep 29th 2008
54
The Louisiana sequence wasn't really needed either.
Sep 27th 2008
35
That's one bit I did like...misplaced as it was...
Sep 29th 2008
61
Re: the reviews in here: Black people shouldn't review Black movies
Sep 28th 2008
37
So, did you like the movie or not?
Sep 28th 2008
38
O_E's REVIEW(No Spoilers)
Sep 28th 2008
41
That's a good review....
Sep 28th 2008
43
...
Sep 28th 2008
46
I own both of those movies, Einstein.
Sep 29th 2008
50
      thanks for qualifying your statement
Sep 29th 2008
55
so which angle would you have liked to see taken out
Sep 28th 2008
47
Meh. Difficult to say.
Sep 29th 2008
51
did you peep spike's take on white female beauty worship?
Sep 28th 2008
49
he even explained what a hankyhead was for the audience
Oct 05th 2008
80
i really don't find 'understated' an apt description of spike's joints.....
Sep 30th 2008
63
did it have problems? yes, but still the best movie I've seen in a bit
Sep 28th 2008
45
Films of Spike Lee that the "soft" Critics have liked:
Sep 29th 2008
60
This was the best film I've seen in a long, long time
Sep 28th 2008
48
RE: Too much going on at once
Sep 29th 2008
52
the more I think about it, the more terrible the bookends are
Sep 29th 2008
56
Yeah, this is an odd film to critique
Sep 29th 2008
57
a few things...
Sep 30th 2008
62
huh?
Oct 05th 2008
81
the thing about this film is...
Oct 01st 2008
65
Fuck it. I thought it was great. (long review)
Oct 01st 2008
66
*whispers* (you didn't mention the love triangle)
Oct 01st 2008
67
      Didn't mind that either, actually.
Oct 01st 2008
68
           It wasn't needed, in any way, shape, or form
Oct 01st 2008
69
           this is how I read the love triangle, thought it was fine
Oct 01st 2008
71
Spike Lee film angers Italy's surviving partisans
Oct 01st 2008
70
well, this picture sure ain't do no Tyler Perry numbers:
Oct 02nd 2008
73
it didn't do "iron man" #s either...
Oct 04th 2008
76
I love it.
Oct 02nd 2008
75
goddamn Spike stay OBSESSED with Italians
Oct 05th 2008
79
RE: The Official Miracle At St. Anna Post
Oct 06th 2008
82
I really dig Terence Blanchard's scoring overall, but not here.
Oct 06th 2008
83
      me too. he has done a lot better in previous movies.
Oct 06th 2008
84
it took me 4 tries...
Oct 08th 2008
85
RE: The Official Miracle At St. Anna Post
Oct 08th 2008
86
just got back from seeing this:
Oct 23rd 2008
87
RE: The Official Miracle At St. Anna Post
Oct 24th 2008
88
RE: The Official Miracle At St. Anna Post
Oct 24th 2008
89
this movie fucking sucked!
Apr 15th 2009
91
Wow that was long
Jul 11th 2009
92

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