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38. "I can see the executives POV..."
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I'm generalizing, but i think part of the reason people see the Pixar movies is not so much for the quality of the animation or even the 'quality' or realism of the stories, but because ever since Toy Story the Pixar movies are known for meeting if not exceeding the audiences entertainment expectations, or in other words the audience knows that it's going to get a chance to really enjoy the two plus hours in the theatre. i think part of the allure is due to studios releasing movies that either aren't of a consistent level of quality to be enjoyed by audiences or are advertised poorly which throws off the viewer's expectation of the movie which effects the enjoyment of the movie, is that the Pixar movies are a pleasant surprise in that they've all been consistent in meeting the audiences demand and expectations for a movie that's enjoyable. so in other words, the biggest draw that the Pixar movies have is the preconceived reputation of the work. and if people perceive, whether fairly or not, that the level of quality or the ability to enjoy their movies has diminished than it effects the ability for the company to continue to make movies or make as much money as they can from the movie, which in the end is the focus of the company, to maintain the well being of the company's ability to generate money.

but, for a movie that doesn't have any well-known recognizable voices, to star a rat that lives in a foreign country (France no less. remember the issue of Freedom Fries?? makes you proud to be an American, huh? ;P) and have a director attached to it that has (with the exception of The Incredibles) to produce well-crafted but less-commercially viable material than some of his other contemporaries, to STILL make $200 million speaks to the in-house crew within Pixar to spot a good story and tell it in an way that people enjoy. Like someone else posted before, Shark Tale had Will Smith and some other household names, but i don't think it made $200M. i guess the Pixar movies get held up to a more scruitinizing light because they were the first studio to really make 3-d animation 'stadium-status' ;P

but and it's been said before, that studios are becoming less and less able to get people to the theatre to see a movie and therfore have to dress it up with 'hype' or a sense of being part of something greater than life to see the movie, which of course has nothing to do with the actual story being told or the movie on the screen, but i guess the studios have to pay for 'Grindhouse' somehow.

* shrugs *

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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...and it starts: Disney considers "Ratatouille" a "flop" internally [View all] , Nukkapedia, Fri Sep-14-07 09:07 AM
 
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i dunno
Sep 14th 2007
1
and pixar will never make a flop...
Sep 14th 2007
2
a rat that wants to cook isn't an adventure?
Sep 14th 2007
3
      c'mon now
Sep 14th 2007
7
           ...so you're just replying just to be replying.
Sep 14th 2007
8
           ^^^This reply >>> than THAT reply
Sep 14th 2007
10
           ya'll REALLY gettin all huffy about this??
Sep 14th 2007
11
                Huffy...? You gave me the first laugh of the day...
Sep 14th 2007
13
           monsters>rats.....and i haven't seen either
Sep 14th 2007
9
As someone who hates it when OKPs complain about marketing
Sep 14th 2007
4
The stat about where it ranked during the year is pretty unfair, conside...
Sep 14th 2007
5
I am Disney fan and I must say
Sep 14th 2007
6
Jim Hill is an idiot...and this article is complete bullshit
Sep 14th 2007
12
^^^^^^^^
Sep 14th 2007
14
it's certainly not a dud, but
Sep 14th 2007
15
^thanks...
Sep 14th 2007
16
but cars, incredibles, toy story 2, monsters inc. and bugs life also
Sep 14th 2007
17
Fuck this corporate pissing contest. I mean, really.
Sep 14th 2007
18
I agree, but
Sep 14th 2007
20
hahaha
Sep 14th 2007
28
*dies*
Sep 15th 2007
34
I don't know many parents who aren't automatic Pixar DVD coppers
May 22nd 2008
53
Ratatouille is an amazing film, Bird is an amazing director
Sep 14th 2007
19
maybe it just wasn't funny
Sep 14th 2007
21
hold on there nitro
Sep 14th 2007
22
ohh yeah cars was horrible too
Sep 14th 2007
24
You didn't finish the movie?
Sep 15th 2007
32
*winces at the very mention of "Cars"*
Sep 14th 2007
25
I dunno about anyone else, but Ratatouille is number 3 on
Sep 14th 2007
23
it wasn't excessively funny, no...but why does it have to be?
Sep 14th 2007
26
maybe cuz its a disney and pixar movie
Sep 14th 2007
29
Happy Feet wasn't even the best animated movie of 2006
Sep 15th 2007
31
      lawd y'all know me too well LMAO
Sep 15th 2007
33
It was funny, just subtly funny, and within-a-storyline funny.
Sep 14th 2007
30
i was excited to see the movie
Nov 03rd 2007
47
Not a flop.
Sep 14th 2007
27
whoever decided to give it a title kids can't pronounce is an idiot...
Sep 16th 2007
35
"rat-ta-tou-ee". It's spelled out phonetically on the official logo
Sep 16th 2007
36
The name was a running joke through the film
Sep 16th 2007
37
      "Food names are supposed to sound delicious."
Sep 17th 2007
43
Yeah because kid HATE hard to pronounce words...
Sep 16th 2007
40
it's a shame that "celerity voice talent" has actually become a
Sep 17th 2007
44
ratatouille was magical
Sep 16th 2007
39
it did have some hefty competition though, gotta admit
Sep 16th 2007
41
I was just thinking that.
Sep 17th 2007
42
Janeane Garofalo and Patton Oswalt? Ratatouille had no big names.
Sep 23rd 2007
45
(yes I'm upping this old ass post) It's a sad day if animated flicks
Nov 02nd 2007
46
      That's the biggest difference to me between Pixar and DW
Nov 03rd 2007
50
           I'd say the plot, story, and dialogue are also glaringly different
Nov 04th 2007
52
I know this isnt an apreciation post, but I loved it
Nov 03rd 2007
48
Just finished watching this not 30mins ago
Nov 03rd 2007
49
For the record...
Nov 04th 2007
51
as a Pixar fan...I was honestly IMPRESSED w/ Ratatoiulle
May 22nd 2008
54
ummm it grossed over 200 mil AND won an oscar for best animated film
May 29th 2008
55
lmao @ someone replying to a 2 year old post
May 29th 2008
56
      Wrong. Nukkapedia is at least four years old.
May 29th 2008
57
why the hell did I just read this like it was new?
May 29th 2008
58

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