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38. "this is way reductionistic"
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>Mike wants folks to go home and wait to vote.
>
>Did he retract/explain and I missed it?
>
>LOL at the dude on Walking in the Snow begging
>protesters to stop at a police press conference.

I've seen this take elsewhere but what he said was, imo, way more complicated then that. He grounded the entire speech in the history of black Atlanta and the idea that burning your own home (i.e. the black community in Atlanta) was problematic. He didn't condemn or dismiss any of the actions of protestors including the looting/vandalism etc. He recognized the work of organizations and strategizing and yes, voting, in civil rights activism -- and basically said, we need to pause and figure out how to channel this moment in the best way possible without injuring our own in the process.

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>I’m not hatin- used to be a huuuge fan.
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>But dude is playing a character on these songs. Hes
>shown us multiple times now.

You mean there is not a one-to-one alignment of Killer Mike the emcee and Michael Santiago Render? *gasp* What a fake! Throw him out! Take away his realness card! He's no activist!

It's almost like the connection between art and life is complicated and that what is expressed in one does not translate perfectly to the other. Or like there might be another purpose to politically-charged lyrics than literal prescription of real life action. Something about theory and praxis, the ideal vs realpolitik -- I'm just guessing.

Seriously though, care for Atlanta and for the black community is substantially in character for Mike (whoever he is - god, art is so confusing!!!). It is 100% possible to reconcile what he said about Ferguson unrest a few years later ("Riots work") and what he said in Atlanta. And his deep investment in both tear-shit-up activism *and* more traditional forms of organizing and politics is pretty well documented. People are acting like they caught him in some sort of great lie when to me this was very much consistent with the full character and real life person that is Killer Mike. Like, this was the most Killer Mike speech ever.

And shit, it was really really really good.

-thebigfunk

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Run The Jewels 4 [View all] , las raises, Sun Mar-22-20 05:45 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Gah Damn
Mar 23rd 2020
1
We ready to mob on these fucking Charlottetons!
Mar 23rd 2020
2
good dis song title aimed at a rapper from Charlotte though
Mar 23rd 2020
3
      Could diss DaBaby, and risk getting socked out.
Mar 23rd 2020
4
RE: Run The Jewels 4
Mar 24th 2020
5
Short answer: yes, listen to all 3 Run The Jewels albums
Mar 25th 2020
6
I agree with this.
Mar 26th 2020
9
charter member with 8 posts
Mar 25th 2020
7
      lol
Mar 26th 2020
10
      ha ha
Mar 28th 2020
13
      I thought I had this Lane
Jun 06th 2020
45
2nd track released Ooh lala feat Greg Nice and Primo
Mar 25th 2020
8
not really a Greg Nice feature... dope track though
Mar 26th 2020
11
Dis shit TUFF
Mar 27th 2020
12
I like this RTJ song more than any other RTJ song
Apr 28th 2020
22
      lmao
Apr 28th 2020
23
I have the Beastie Boys book..
Mar 28th 2020
14
Fuck you talking about?
Mar 28th 2020
15
      Wrong post it appears.
Mar 28th 2020
16
           Yeah I know...just couldn’t pass up the opportunity
Mar 28th 2020
17
Oh la la video
Apr 27th 2020
18
good to see greg in the video
Apr 27th 2020
19
REALLY good. I appreciated that.
Apr 28th 2020
24
So so good. Zack chilling in the background too
May 13th 2020
27
yeah this is dope
Apr 28th 2020
20
Never thought I'd see
Apr 28th 2020
21
      Tidal has the credits. It’s not an El-P beat
Jun 14th 2020
51
           Album liner notes says it is n/m
Jun 14th 2020
53
Album drops June 5th, Tracklisting
May 12th 2020
25
i almost bought the 4 LP version
May 12th 2020
26
      i made the same move
May 13th 2020
28
They dropped it early!
Jun 03rd 2020
29
music to protest to. Brilliant move by them.
Jun 03rd 2020
30
You mean music to play while you wait to vote right?
Jun 03rd 2020
34
     
           context matters
Jun 05th 2020
44
sweet. btwn this alfredo and new k-os-
Jun 03rd 2020
36
It officially dropped today
Jun 03rd 2020
31
honestly thought they were getting stale
Jun 03rd 2020
32
What??
Jun 04th 2020
43
went straight to the Zack/Pharrell feature... flames.. will check it all...
Jun 03rd 2020
33
Shadow the Jewels
Jun 03rd 2020
35
dope as hell
Jun 03rd 2020
37
this is damn good and timely
Jun 04th 2020
39
The production on this thing is immaculate. Masterfully mixed.
Jun 04th 2020
40
3 was eh...this is a return to form...the production is stellar
Jun 04th 2020
41
Out of Sight...JEEZUS
Jun 04th 2020
42
I can't think of a more relevant album
Jun 08th 2020
48
      old now, but check out
Jun 08th 2020
49
      RE: I can't think of a more relevant album
Jun 23rd 2020
55
      shrines came out this month too
Jun 28th 2020
57
This may be their best album, 2 was my favorite but man this album
Jun 07th 2020
46
Holy Calamafuck...dude
Jun 08th 2020
47
Stumbling on this today
Jun 12th 2020
50
Lot of outside co producers. Tidal has the credits
Jun 14th 2020
52
Okay. Thanks.
Jun 14th 2020
54
cosign ^ n/m
Jun 24th 2020
56

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