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Ascension
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"Let's all be honest hip-hop production hasn't evolved since Dilla died "


  

          

Even with all the tools that have made every nerd and hipster try their hand at the shit.

Who in the game has been more genius in their chopping ability?

Who has had better drums selection on their beats since Dilla?

Who has been able to transform their style / have an unpredictable range?

The answer is nobody...it's amazing how you can listen to 15 year old Dilla beats that are still light years ahead of what cats tryna do now

  

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Let's all be honest hip-hop production hasn't evolved since Dilla died [View all] , Ascension, Thu Oct-24-13 11:17 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
The Fog Of Dilla R.I.P. Nuthuggers Killed Beatmaking...
Oct 24th 2013
1
thats your summary of araabmuzik?
Oct 25th 2013
84
      lol
Oct 26th 2013
95
that doesn't have nearly as much to do with him
Oct 24th 2013
2
I might of reached...bringing up his 15 yr old beats
Oct 24th 2013
7
      there's been a few guys that made me get geeked over their production
Oct 24th 2013
8
there's a forum for this.
Oct 24th 2013
3
Yeah and I didn't feel like posting it there smart ass
Oct 24th 2013
4
nobody goes in there
Oct 24th 2013
5
does this not fit the category of in depth music discussion?
Oct 25th 2013
76
http://tinyurl.com/mp7rzs5
Oct 26th 2013
96
yeah i thought about this, but i disagree...
Oct 24th 2013
6
Flying Lotus n/m
Oct 24th 2013
9
I haven't fully been able to embrace all of his music.
Oct 24th 2013
10
And?
Oct 24th 2013
14
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oct 25th 2013
77
      LMAO *bang*
Oct 28th 2013
110
      Hmmm.....
Oct 30th 2013
126
I came in here to say that
Nov 09th 2013
132
Sheeeeeiiiiit. that ain't true, at all
Oct 24th 2013
11
^truth.
Oct 24th 2013
13
yup
Oct 24th 2013
48
agreed, rap doesn't sound anything like it did seven years ago.
Oct 26th 2013
97
well, dilla didn't re-invent the wheel
Oct 24th 2013
12
bammer is actually right about this one
Oct 24th 2013
15
thanks for reading.
Oct 24th 2013
16
i miss scratch mag SO MUCH n/m
Oct 24th 2013
17
RE: bammer is actually right about this one
Oct 24th 2013
18
      These dudes will never admit they are 'hip-hop' tho
Oct 24th 2013
19
      RE: These dudes will never admit they are 'hip-hop' tho
Oct 24th 2013
22
      Sad but true (c)
Oct 24th 2013
27
           RE: Sad but true (c)
Oct 24th 2013
32
           if i never hear the term footwork again in a non-dancing context
Oct 24th 2013
35
      Baauer and TNGHT are on record calling their music hiphop
Oct 24th 2013
36
           And hip-hop heads don't give a fuck
Oct 24th 2013
44
                even if they are on Ye and Danny Brown's LPs?
Oct 24th 2013
49
                then they are in denial
Oct 25th 2013
74
      Hip-hop heads don't care
Oct 24th 2013
21
           RE: Hip-hop heads don't care
Oct 24th 2013
23
                none of that shit is innovative....
Oct 24th 2013
24
                     http://tinyurl.com/n96a3kh
Oct 24th 2013
28
                     old, honest... same difference
Oct 24th 2013
38
                          huge difference
Oct 24th 2013
50
                               you could smooth shut me the fuck down with a link
Oct 24th 2013
59
                     RE: none of that shit is innovative....
Oct 24th 2013
29
                          Dilla's innovation came out of taking what was there
Oct 24th 2013
30
                          RE: Dilla's innovation came out of taking what was there
Oct 24th 2013
33
                               I'm talking the stuff in the links
Oct 24th 2013
34
                               You really think Cashmere Cat is doing incredible things?
Oct 24th 2013
39
                                    RE: You really think Cashmere Cat is doing incredible things?
Oct 24th 2013
40
                                    Ok I was just curious
Oct 24th 2013
42
                                         RE: Ok I was just curious
Oct 24th 2013
53
                                              I think they have evolved
Oct 24th 2013
72
                                                   RE: I think they have evolved
Oct 25th 2013
82
                                                        Exactly
Oct 25th 2013
86
                                    what back water village do you niggas live in where
Oct 24th 2013
51
                                         Have you been to a Fly Lo show?
Oct 24th 2013
73
                                              thats a very strange application of quantum theory
Oct 25th 2013
78
                                                   Where did I say that?
Oct 25th 2013
88
                          to begin to talk about innovative you have to start with
Oct 24th 2013
37
                               RE: to begin to talk about innovative you have to start with
Oct 24th 2013
41
                                    sure they could it was just a shit ton of a lot harder
Oct 24th 2013
43
                                         RE: sure they could it was just a shit ton of a lot harder
Oct 24th 2013
56
                                              terry riley's prolly got something with spliced tape
Oct 24th 2013
62
                                                   RE: terry riley's prolly got something with spliced tape
Oct 25th 2013
80
                                                        1) you could map to a keyboard with a 950 or an MPC
Oct 25th 2013
87
                                                        if u care that much, could u break down what's happening?
Oct 28th 2013
107
                                                             RE: if u care that much, could u break down what's happening?
Oct 28th 2013
109
                                                                  RE: if u care that much, could u break down what's happening?
Oct 28th 2013
112
                                                                       RE: if u care that much, could u break down what's happening?
Oct 28th 2013
116
                                                                            couple things
Oct 28th 2013
120
RE: Let's all be honest hip-hop production hasn't evolved since Dilla di...
Oct 24th 2013
20
nah they just found fast cheap ways to replicate the techniques
Oct 24th 2013
45
      Truth. How about the "sidechain" button in some daws?
Oct 24th 2013
52
      RE: nah they just found fast cheap ways to replicate the techniques
Oct 24th 2013
57
I agree with most of the sentiment in the rest...
Oct 24th 2013
25
good post
Oct 24th 2013
26
I keep trying to drill in to OKP the existence of foreign beatmakers
Oct 24th 2013
31
I had hope for L.A., still kinda do...
Oct 24th 2013
47
there's a lot more to trap
Oct 24th 2013
54
RE: there's a lot more to trap
Oct 24th 2013
58
not familiar with Friends of Friends
Oct 24th 2013
61
      RE: not familiar with Friends of Friends
Oct 24th 2013
63
           It's weird to have Shlomo be a defining point
Oct 24th 2013
65
           RE: It's weird to have Shlomo be a defining point
Oct 24th 2013
66
           ahh i thought he released stuff
Oct 24th 2013
67
the thing is that these things are most exciting
Oct 24th 2013
64
neverheard of machinedrum either
Oct 24th 2013
68
Yeah...my main problem is the elements used in the music.
Oct 24th 2013
69
      RE: Yeah...my main problem is the elements used in the music.
Oct 24th 2013
71
      thank you for this excellent contribution blak.. very dope post
Oct 25th 2013
89
           RE: thank you for this excellent contribution blak.. very dope post
Oct 26th 2013
98
fam FlyLo has only dropped
Oct 24th 2013
55
      RE: fam FlyLo has only dropped
Oct 24th 2013
60
           what do you mean?
Oct 25th 2013
75
                RE: what do you mean?
Oct 25th 2013
81
                     I dont think thats how it should be looked at
Oct 25th 2013
83
                          RE: I dont think thats how it should be looked at
Oct 28th 2013
115
thanks for the links
Oct 26th 2013
94
i think the word "evolved" can be such a problem in music
Oct 24th 2013
46
especially when its insisted that the evolution conform to pre-existing ...
Oct 25th 2013
79
      nobody here said anything of the sort in this discussion
Oct 25th 2013
90
           are you being facetious?
Oct 29th 2013
122
                nope
Oct 29th 2013
125
People still chop samples?
Oct 24th 2013
70
RE: Really tired of post-Dilla prognosticating.
Oct 25th 2013
85
Nah...
Oct 25th 2013
91
      RE: He's still alive?
Oct 26th 2013
99
           The Music Is...
Oct 26th 2013
101
                RE: That's sad that you try to psychoanalyze.
Oct 26th 2013
102
                     I'm not psychoanalyzing the bullschitt you've said
Oct 27th 2013
103
I know a few heads who compare FlyLo to Dilla.
Oct 26th 2013
92
shit a lot of EC has early elements of the beat scene.
Oct 26th 2013
93
nm
Oct 26th 2013
100
a quick question for the OP
Oct 27th 2013
104
To be more specific
Oct 27th 2013
105
      definitely, no argument here
Oct 27th 2013
106
      RE: definitely, no argument here
Oct 28th 2013
111
           my point still stands
Oct 28th 2013
117
                Exactly
Oct 28th 2013
118
                RE: my point still stands
Oct 28th 2013
119
                     there is a very real human element in music, even programmed music
Oct 29th 2013
124
      there's a wide world of music to explore, let it go
Oct 28th 2013
108
           Let what go exactly?!?!
Oct 28th 2013
113
It has evolved but...
Oct 28th 2013
114
i'm not sure if another person CAN change the game
Oct 28th 2013
121
      I think it's possible...
Nov 10th 2013
134
eleven releases post dilla which were incredibly innovative
Oct 29th 2013
123
sad that all of those are 3+ years old though
Oct 30th 2013
127
      yeah, there are a few bright spots here and there
Nov 06th 2013
130
theres some great producers today but they work off the old standards..
Oct 30th 2013
128
I would love to see a resurgence of that sound/hip-hop period
Oct 30th 2013
129
no one thinks Clams or BSBD is something new to hip hop?
Nov 06th 2013
131
Dilla did everything one could possibly do, you didn't know?
Nov 10th 2013
133

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