Printer-friendly copy Email this topic to a friend
Lobby The Lesson topic #2686623

Subject: "I feel it's a combination of alot of things" Previous topic | Next topic
Alphabet
Member since Jun 28th 2003
4402 posts
Mon Apr-16-12 06:55 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
25. "I feel it's a combination of alot of things"
In response to In response to 0
Mon Apr-16-12 06:56 PM by Alphabet

  

          

Sampling laws played a part yes,

Also I think the stereotype and perception of rap/hip-hop's "We Get Money" culture hurt. Because alot of the old heads had this perception that if one of 'those rappers' sample any of their shit..they like "Shit Im about to go to the bank!", not realizing most of the hip-hop artist thats sampling them like that are underground artist..and NOT the Jay's, Snoop's and Em's of the world..

This maybe just my perspective, but the emergence and takeover in software based production has made it less 'fun' to sample. I know with me all these programs have the slicer and chopper tools in them...and you run a sample through that boy..chop it up..throw some drums on it and call it a day. It's definitely not as adventurous as creating from scratch with the software synths or bringing in live instruments..

So alot of the sampling vets prolly on some been/there done that tip and just wading the water hoping the tide will change back to a demand in sampling..

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote


Alot of producers died when sampling looping became obsolete [View all] , ABROCK33, Mon Apr-16-12 11:11 AM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Diamond D
Apr 16th 2012
1
I feel sorry for him...
Apr 16th 2012
18
      Diamond SPECIFICALY was really the impetus behind this post
Apr 16th 2012
19
           His second album lacked the energy IMO...
Apr 16th 2012
21
           its cuz HE/HIS SKILLS didnt get any better
Apr 16th 2012
22
                DEFLATE CHA
Apr 17th 2012
43
                Hiatus (Remix) might be my favorite Diamond D song...
Apr 17th 2012
58
           Fuck "The market" and it's treads and taste.
Apr 17th 2012
114
Just Blaze DID. Pete Rock kinda didn't
Apr 16th 2012
2
the last post about the death of sampling caused some
Apr 16th 2012
3
im not celebrating sampling as an arts demise
Apr 16th 2012
4
The Bomb Squad
Apr 16th 2012
5
yup, Hank Shocklee talked about it in his Red Bull lecture
Apr 16th 2012
9
i dont think the laws had as big an effect as changing tastes
Apr 16th 2012
6
i disagree their is still and will always be a "boom/bap" market
Apr 16th 2012
7
true, but as the default sound of hip hop
Apr 16th 2012
12
      wait..what..???
Apr 18th 2012
115
           i never said it had 'grown'
Apr 18th 2012
129
The law didn't change. Folks just started cracking down and
Apr 16th 2012
8
it'd be nice if you could use everything and just pay something
Apr 16th 2012
13
boom bap is newer than 808
Apr 16th 2012
34
      this beat KICKS
Apr 16th 2012
36
           ?
Apr 16th 2012
39
such restriction limited RZA to mere mortal
Apr 16th 2012
10
he came after the period AB is talking about
Apr 16th 2012
29
i for one will NEVER get tired of boom bap..
Apr 16th 2012
11
^
Apr 16th 2012
28
When it comes to Hip Hop production...
Apr 16th 2012
14
what year is this??? *cue twilight zone theme*
Apr 16th 2012
15
93 til infinity, bitch
Apr 16th 2012
32
I agree, but some people have a hard time understanding this.
Apr 16th 2012
16
      RE: I agree, but some people have a hard time understanding this.
Apr 16th 2012
17
      RE: I agree, but some people have a hard time understanding this.
Apr 16th 2012
20
      they like anything though
Apr 16th 2012
35
      ehhhh, the playing on non-sampled beats has gotten much better
Apr 17th 2012
50
           RE: ehhhh, the playing on non-sampled beats has gotten much better
Apr 17th 2012
52
           i wouldn't call sampling crap, though
Apr 17th 2012
55
           you're listening to the wrong type of music
Apr 17th 2012
57
                sampling can be done well, etc. but it is not the way
Apr 17th 2012
62
           Do you mind posting up a few examples?
Apr 17th 2012
90
                will post some later
Apr 18th 2012
117
Most of the east coast producers
Apr 16th 2012
23
I take exception to Large Pro being dead
Apr 16th 2012
24
RE: I feel it's a combination of alot of things
Apr 16th 2012
38
      yeah i'll never get this mindset at all
Apr 17th 2012
54
      thats sad
Apr 17th 2012
106
      Someone may not look at it as difficult though
Apr 17th 2012
112
Did ya'll see the doc Copyright Criminals? about sampling
Apr 16th 2012
26
Thanks!
Apr 16th 2012
27
Just reminded me why I don't like Steve Albini
Apr 16th 2012
37
      every interview ive ever read of him
Apr 16th 2012
40
      dude's a cockcuddler w/r/t this topic
Apr 17th 2012
69
RE: Alot of producers died when sampling looping became obsolete
Apr 16th 2012
30
hmmm you right, BUT missing the point of the post
Apr 16th 2012
31
madlib is the rose that grew from the copyright law concrete
Apr 16th 2012
41
lol
Apr 16th 2012
42
RE: madlib is the rose that grew from the copyright law concrete
Apr 17th 2012
44
      what i meant is
Apr 17th 2012
47
exactly
Apr 17th 2012
49
Madlib lies under the cloak of relative obscurity
Apr 17th 2012
76
RE: the beatminerz
Apr 16th 2012
33
RE: the beatminerz
Apr 17th 2012
45
the essence
Apr 17th 2012
56
this is why dnb/electronic producers are more talented
Apr 17th 2012
46
thats not fair
Apr 17th 2012
48
      RE: thats not fair
Apr 17th 2012
51
      LOL. stop it. please
Apr 17th 2012
59
           RE: LOL. stop it. please
Apr 17th 2012
63
                nigga did you misread where i said im exaggerating
Apr 17th 2012
68
                they some hoe ass hip hop republicans treating sampling...
Apr 17th 2012
80
                thats the same thing i was saying...
Apr 17th 2012
107
                none of these dudes have ever done anything with a rapper
Apr 17th 2012
109
RE: Alot of producers died when sampling looping became obsolete
Apr 17th 2012
53
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Apr 17th 2012
60
RE: Alot of producers died when sampling looping became obsolete
Apr 17th 2012
65
      get the fuck over it dude
Apr 17th 2012
78
           RE: get the fuck over it dude
Apr 17th 2012
83
                i hate posting on phones
Apr 17th 2012
86
                proper response here:
Apr 17th 2012
93
                     RE: proper response here:
Apr 17th 2012
98
                          im NOT talkin about records, im talkin abt HIPHOP MUSIC
Apr 17th 2012
99
I've always felt that way about Pete Rock
Apr 17th 2012
61
Marley Marl
Apr 17th 2012
64
all the way @ #64, he was the first that came to mind
Apr 18th 2012
118
this thread makes me throw up in my mouth
Apr 17th 2012
66
crawl before you walk type thing....
Apr 17th 2012
67
I pretty much disagree with everything you just wrote
Apr 17th 2012
70
me too man...
Apr 17th 2012
71
      well I'm a unique high standards for progress man, yup
Apr 17th 2012
72
           LOL
Apr 17th 2012
73
                Using other people's stuff is crawling, to walk, it is time for the
Apr 17th 2012
74
youre a hot mess
Apr 17th 2012
110
      lol
Apr 18th 2012
119
way over generalzing to call of them tools..
Apr 17th 2012
77
these turkeys were already dead because
Apr 17th 2012
75
RE: these turkeys were already dead because
Apr 17th 2012
104
as a sample-based beat maker
Apr 17th 2012
79
to the people in this thread bemoaning hip hop producers, beat makers
Apr 17th 2012
81
exactly
Apr 17th 2012
88
I dont know how this thread turned into a sampling vs non sampling
Apr 17th 2012
82
the lesson is where music snobs and oldhead hiphoppers collide
Apr 17th 2012
84
i got the premise of your original post, I have no issue with it at all
Apr 17th 2012
85
I agree and its frustrating
Apr 17th 2012
92
it's because these nigaaz DONT KNOW HOW TO READ
Apr 17th 2012
102
      u feel my pain
Apr 17th 2012
103
      RE: it's because these nigaaz DONT KNOW HOW TO READ
Apr 17th 2012
105
RE: Alot of producers died when sampling looping became obsolete
Apr 17th 2012
87
?
Apr 17th 2012
91
RE: ?
Apr 17th 2012
95
      rappers delight was a replayed loop
Apr 17th 2012
96
      RE: rappers delight was a replayed loop
Apr 17th 2012
101
      nah
Apr 17th 2012
97
TWO TURNTABLES AND A MIC
Apr 17th 2012
94
      its all comes from the dj and the break...
Apr 18th 2012
120
RE: Alot of producers died when sampling looping became obsolete
Apr 17th 2012
89
RE: Alot of producers died when sampling looping became obsolete
Apr 17th 2012
100
sounds like ur saying it wasnt fully formed until the sampler
Apr 17th 2012
111
      RE: sounds like ur saying it wasnt fully formed until the sampler
Apr 17th 2012
113
RE: Alot of producers died when sampling looping became obsolete
Apr 17th 2012
108
Jesus you people REALLY need to put down the Kool Aide.
Apr 18th 2012
116
JESUS FUCN CHRIST
Apr 18th 2012
128
the BEATNUTS
Apr 18th 2012
121
Shawn J Period fell on his own sword.
Apr 18th 2012
122
they did get through the early '00s... but yeah MILK ME was the end
Apr 18th 2012
123
      LES IS DOING AN ALBUM WITH
Apr 18th 2012
125
           Les seems real ambitious right now...
Apr 18th 2012
127
DJ Premier
Apr 18th 2012
124
no way... he distinguished himself when LOOPING became obsolete
Apr 18th 2012
126

Lobby The Lesson topic #2686623 Previous topic | Next topic
Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.25
Copyright © DCScripts.com