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25. "Even the song Imagine has a syrupy-ass string arrangement..."
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The production on there literally sappier and cornier than 97% of McCartney's solo shit. Great song, but the production on it annoys the fuck out of me.

As for Plastic Ono Band, I respect it mainly for reasons outside the actual music. Musically, however, I find it extremely bland. And I'm not saying that in comparison to McCartney, I'm just saying it in general. From a purely musical standpoint, the songs here are extremely basic and straight-forward - it's the raw energy and visceral power of his voice, as well as his "introspection" that save the album. (Even his "depth" to me is a little overrated though - songs like Working Class Hero and God are classic pseudo-intellectual Lennon, not to mention extremely narcissistic. If that's your thing, cool. "If you want to be a hero, well just follow me." What?) Honestly, there are, at tops, four or five great songs here with some definite filler mixed in.

My main issue with Lennon's solo stuff is that he really takes himself so fucking deathly serious it's borderline comical. He insists upon himself like a motherfucker. Just for comparison's sake, McCartney's first five solo albums (and many more thereafter) are pure, unfiltered anything-goes assholery with not even a whiff of self-importance. Not to mention, musically they easily hang with a lot of The Beatles stuff IMO.

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people who downplay mccartney in favor of lennon..... [View all] , d-bwoyFLOW, Wed Apr-04-12 12:02 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Couldn't agree more
Apr 04th 2012
1
I think u mean Voltron
Apr 04th 2012
2
yeah sorry my bad
Apr 04th 2012
3
RE: Couldn't agree more
Apr 04th 2012
4
      Yep!
Apr 04th 2012
8
I don't really get into the Lennon = rock thing too much......yet
Apr 04th 2012
5
Only people who don't know the deal discredit McCartney.
Apr 04th 2012
6
for no one is truly one of the greatest songs ever
Apr 04th 2012
7
Exactly.
Apr 04th 2012
9
Plastic Ono/IMagine > any Paul solo
Apr 04th 2012
10
^^^^^^
Apr 04th 2012
11
RE: Imagine is not better than Ram or the first Wings album.
Apr 05th 2012
16
I"m not big on them but they bet not better than Plastic Ono
Apr 05th 2012
19
that about sums it up for me
Apr 05th 2012
20
      Lennon, Morrison or Cobain?
Apr 05th 2012
30
           They're all pretty bad, but I'd give the nod to Morrison.
Apr 05th 2012
31
           come on. gotta be the lizard king.
Apr 06th 2012
34
nope.
Apr 05th 2012
22
People have been saying this for 20 years now...
Apr 04th 2012
12
RE: People have been saying this for 20 years now...
Apr 05th 2012
15
RE: Good points, as usual, man.
Apr 05th 2012
17
      RE: Good points, as usual, man.
Apr 05th 2012
21
      RE: Spoken like someone who's never actually heard the album.
Apr 05th 2012
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           RE: Spoken like someone who's never actually heard the album.
Apr 05th 2012
26
                RE: Would love to see your list.
Apr 05th 2012
27
                     RE: Would love to see your list.
Apr 05th 2012
28
                          RE: Wild Life
Apr 05th 2012
29
      Yeah, I forgot Harrison...
Apr 05th 2012
24
Lennon was a moody prick imo..nothing wrong w/McCartney's music
Apr 04th 2012
13
RE: people who downplay mccartney in favor of lennon.....
Apr 05th 2012
14
Lennon was a more complex songwriter,however they balanced one another
Apr 05th 2012
18
i dont understand why any beatles fan wld feel the need...
Apr 05th 2012
32
im sayin.. enjoy them shits
Apr 05th 2012
33
RE: It's the status quo these days.
Apr 06th 2012
42
I only agree to a certain extent...
Apr 06th 2012
43
^clearly a Lennon fan
Apr 09th 2012
56
Agreed with this sentiment.
Apr 06th 2012
35
No, there *was* a romanticization of Lennon...
Apr 06th 2012
36
      that's the thing
Apr 06th 2012
37
      songs like "I'm losing you" (the version w the Cheap Trick guys)
Apr 06th 2012
38
           RE: songs like "I'm losing you" (the version w the Cheap Trick...
Apr 06th 2012
39
                before he died, John was saying he was sure the Beatles would
Apr 06th 2012
40
      RE: Lennon went soft rock.
Apr 06th 2012
41
      noone's trying to be cutting edge here.
Apr 06th 2012
44
If Lennon hadn't been killed
Apr 06th 2012
45
RE: people who downplay mccartney in favor of lennon.....
Apr 06th 2012
46
RE: people who downplay mccartney in favor of lennon.....
Apr 06th 2012
47
Read this link about the subtle complexity of 'Martha My Dear':
Apr 06th 2012
48
Lennon was the most hatingest, miserable cat in the world.
Apr 06th 2012
49
the Lennon hate in this post is hilarious
Apr 06th 2012
50
RE: I get what you're saying.
Apr 07th 2012
51
Actually, Ringo was the catalyst for all of the Beatles success.
Apr 07th 2012
52
RE: He's rumored to have come up with the phrases. . .
Apr 07th 2012
53
.
Apr 09th 2012
54
I wish I could type as fast as I can think.
Apr 09th 2012
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