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52. "RE: Run DMC??"
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I was about to say.

The thing with Eminem is that the timing seems off. I'd have pushed his dates back to 2000 until whenever, but he kind of came along the same time the whole "rise of the underground/napster" thing did. He was a battle rapper with great flow marketed to MTV, and it worked. But at the same time he came out there were a lot of things changing in hip-hop. Right around that time you get Internal Affairs, Mos and Talib, even acts like Atmosphere, the Living Legends, Jurassic 5, and Jedi Mind Tricks. And I'll say that the idea of "underground" rap is kind of gone now, but at that point in time it was running, it was strong, and as odd as it is to say it, Eminem was a product of all of that. He just had Dr. Dre, great flow, and TRL behind him.

And I'd say that if we shifted into the next stage, Kanye is the obvious forerunner. Although I don't think he's the best rapper around, his influence is as undeniable as it is widespread. I mean where the fuck would Drake be without Kanye to head out before him? Would we have listened to Kid Cudi? How well was Lupe's career going before Ye put him on? Not saying he's responsible for their success, but he certainly primed the environment for their brand of rap.

  

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Kool Moe Dee's 8 year Hip Hop Paradigm shift [View all] , ABROCK33, Tue Apr-03-12 08:30 AM
 
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this is a post I've been planning ot make-good one
Apr 03rd 2012
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if its not a perfect match whose the closest MC?
Apr 03rd 2012
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      I don't see one
Apr 03rd 2012
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honestly this sounds like college paper nonsense to me.
Apr 03rd 2012
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you need to see it in context
Apr 03rd 2012
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you might be right about this
Apr 03rd 2012
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      RE: you might be right about this
Apr 03rd 2012
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           I don't think he was really being dismissive
Apr 03rd 2012
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           i think that's a more eloquent way of stating it yeah.
Apr 03rd 2012
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           i agree that more discourse is needed
Apr 03rd 2012
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                take it as a starting point
Apr 03rd 2012
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                     fair enough.
Apr 03rd 2012
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yep.
Apr 03rd 2012
33
drake..that hashtag flow
Apr 03rd 2012
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Sean Price is the originator of that
Apr 03rd 2012
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      maybe. drake blew it up though
Apr 03rd 2012
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      No. Cam was doing that shit before Sean Price.
Apr 03rd 2012
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           Q-Tip....1991, you son of a bitch!!!!!!!
Apr 03rd 2012
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                P was hitting that lack before Cam was tho
Apr 03rd 2012
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I fail to see how an oscar nod is a paradigm shift
Apr 03rd 2012
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that Oscar in itself isnt a paradigm shift
Apr 03rd 2012
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      Eminem doesn't have enough children
Apr 03rd 2012
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      I like the way u put that lol offspring
Apr 03rd 2012
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      But perhaps more than Rakim and Big before him
Apr 03rd 2012
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           if Jay has been imitated then BDK and Biggie have been
Apr 03rd 2012
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                sorry that argument is not valid
Apr 03rd 2012
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      agreed.
Apr 03rd 2012
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           u cant add Jaz Z for the same reason u cant add Nas
Apr 03rd 2012
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                top 25 (of 50) MC's according to KMD
Apr 03rd 2012
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      what did he say about Em?
Apr 03rd 2012
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           Ill check the book
Apr 03rd 2012
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Bullshit
Apr 03rd 2012
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Im probally the biggest Cube fan here but uh...... NO
Apr 03rd 2012
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      RE: Im probally the biggest Cube fan here but uh...... NO
Apr 03rd 2012
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           this discusion isnt about better
Apr 03rd 2012
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                Actually Cube birthed A GRIP of MC's
Apr 03rd 2012
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                who did Cube birth?
Apr 03rd 2012
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                     Plenty
Apr 03rd 2012
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                          Im playin Phil Collins on this one:
Apr 03rd 2012
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                          damn, you're right w/Red
Apr 04th 2012
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                RE: this discusion isnt about better
Apr 03rd 2012
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I agree with his point and the idea of it..
Apr 03rd 2012
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RE: I agree with his point and the idea of it..
Apr 03rd 2012
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      But Em is the poster boy of that style..thats the point
Apr 03rd 2012
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there was also the theory that under more conservative goverment
Apr 03rd 2012
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This just isn't accurate
Apr 03rd 2012
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you need to read that paragraph again
Apr 03rd 2012
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There isn't a big enough sample pool of years to pull "scientific"
Apr 03rd 2012
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Run DMC??
Apr 03rd 2012
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RE: Kool Moe Dee's 8 year Hip Hop Paradigm shift
Apr 04th 2012
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he didnt diss himself lol
Apr 04th 2012
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I don't get why people always say Rakim when Big Daddy Kane's
Apr 04th 2012
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