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Artful Dodger
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60. "haha.. or it could just merely be opinion. It's subjective to begin wit..."
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 Thu Mar-22-12 05:19 PM by Artful Dodger

          

but if you are baseing it off music - then base it off music.

If you are off sales - okay then I hear you. Even that however is debateable cause of his sales overseas.

I have seen him live, he's a monster. Absolutely amazing singer.

I own several of his albums as well as others in this post - we all like it and consider him great.

Don't know what else to say.

You are right tho no need for arguments.

  
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Lets Talk Abt Terence Trent D'Arby a.k.a. Sananda Francesco Maitreya [View all] , vee-lover, Thu Mar-22-12 02:14 PM
 
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he said he was good as or better then Michael off that 1st record
Mar 22nd 2012
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I know he said he was better than the Beatles in the Rolling Stone
Mar 22nd 2012
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      If I recall correctly, he didn't even say that - he say something to the
Mar 22nd 2012
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           Actually he did say that he said his album was better than Sgt. Pepper's
Mar 22nd 2012
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                I do remember something to that effect but as you said he wasn't
Mar 22nd 2012
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                     Exactly - he was totally kidding... but he was cocky...
Mar 22nd 2012
13
He is one of the greats... who's questioning that?
Mar 22nd 2012
2
many ppl don't even know who he is - he only had one commercially
Mar 22nd 2012
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Um.. I beg to differ immensely lol.. many ppl don't know who
Mar 22nd 2012
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      history won't remember as one of the greats, your personal feelings
Mar 22nd 2012
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      Who's history? Cause in Europe he is considered one of the greats
Mar 22nd 2012
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           but the US market is the one he (&most artists) want to conquer
Mar 22nd 2012
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                No actually it's not. There is no one market anyone wants to conquer
Mar 22nd 2012
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                     what!?!? if you're an artist looking for global appeal then of course
Mar 22nd 2012
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                          some artists do - some don't... no one can just say one rule applies
Mar 22nd 2012
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                               of course there's rules to the exceptions but in generally being
Mar 22nd 2012
34
                                    Um... that's such a ridiculous statement... first off if you are an arti...
Mar 22nd 2012
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                                         I'm starting to see you don't have a clue what you're talking abt
Mar 22nd 2012
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                                              Actually you just proved my point earlier in this post - some artists
Mar 22nd 2012
61
      Dave Matthews & Phish have longstanding big fanbases, TTD doesn't
Mar 22nd 2012
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           It's not terrible it's dead on Phish and Dave have American bases
Mar 23rd 2012
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                their American base just happens to be 20 times TTD's entire global base
Mar 23rd 2012
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                     Prove that with actual statistics.
Mar 23rd 2012
91
Umm...he's not seen as a "great" at all.
Mar 22nd 2012
52
      dude projecting his own personal feelings abt Terence Trent D'Arby
Mar 22nd 2012
53
           Yea I was like wtf??? No need arguing
Mar 22nd 2012
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                the topic was whether he's viewed as 'one of the greats', he's not
Mar 22nd 2012
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                     I'm sure if you asked a wide range of ppl what they thought of
Mar 22nd 2012
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                     Yeah but my point was in my OPINION he is... it's subjective no?
Mar 23rd 2012
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                          read reply #2, if u can't keep ur own bullshit straight why should I?
Mar 23rd 2012
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                               Slow down fam you sounding mad personal right now - lol it's TTD dog
Mar 23rd 2012
90
                                    lemme answer your question in #2 for you: everyone except u & his mama
Mar 23rd 2012
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He's good but his non-hit oriented stuff wasn't enough to please
Mar 22nd 2012
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Nah man - hits? Fuck hits... give me good music.
Mar 22nd 2012
5
      then accept your lil niche in the market.
Mar 22nd 2012
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           hahaha... well my tastes are not personal offenses are they?
Mar 22nd 2012
15
You got that second and third album right? If not - criminal offense.
Mar 22nd 2012
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his stuff just ain't that good.
Mar 22nd 2012
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Actually that's not true at all - when he was signed to CBS
Mar 22nd 2012
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i've heard the music, guy.
Mar 22nd 2012
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      Who the fuck cares about Hits? Did Mingus have hits?
Mar 22nd 2012
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           we aren't talking about Mingus, guy. LOL
Mar 22nd 2012
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                But clearly you are wrong... hahaha.. that's my point...
Mar 22nd 2012
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                     yeah, he has some fans.
Mar 22nd 2012
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                          Bigger by who's standards? Again America don't define the world
Mar 22nd 2012
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                               whomever you like, holmes.
Mar 22nd 2012
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                                    Your definition of success is the problem: aka robot americans.
Mar 22nd 2012
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                                         oh, okay.
Mar 22nd 2012
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                                              No but it's how you choose to define success that counts
Mar 22nd 2012
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I think it was his lack of commercial consistency that did him in moreso
Mar 22nd 2012
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      Are we having a grade school discussion here or what? Hits?
Mar 22nd 2012
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           yup.
Mar 22nd 2012
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           Hardly - you are way off but if that's your opinion so be it. LOL.
Mar 22nd 2012
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                we're not having the same conversation.
Mar 22nd 2012
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                     haha.. Um.. No. He is definitely one of the greats - one of the greats
Mar 22nd 2012
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                          nope.
Mar 22nd 2012
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                               we can do this all day - we agree to disagree...
Mar 22nd 2012
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                                    i don't agree to disagree.
Mar 22nd 2012
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                                         Your gonna have to bro - your word don't hold weight in my ears.
Mar 22nd 2012
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                                              that's cool.
Mar 22nd 2012
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           how many artists in the history of music are regarded as great w/o
Mar 22nd 2012
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                an act can be great w/o selling 'a lot' of records.
Mar 22nd 2012
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                     the operative word there is 'a lot' and selling a lot of records is
Mar 22nd 2012
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                          Please Arthur Verocai anyone? He deads any sales argument.
Mar 22nd 2012
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                               TTD's catalog ain't holding up to any of those u listed (tho I'll recuse
Mar 22nd 2012
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                               that's all opinion - merely your opinion lol I mean... *shrugs*
Mar 23rd 2012
85
                               I literally almost choked on my spring water lol - so you name *6*
Mar 22nd 2012
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This went off the rails so I'm going to rank his albums instead:
Mar 22nd 2012
48
Great list - here's mine:
Mar 22nd 2012
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      our only consensus is Wildcard
Mar 22nd 2012
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      ^^^So Edgy He Won't Even Put 'Hardline' On The List
Mar 22nd 2012
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That dude was Sam Cooke
Mar 22nd 2012
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Yep - check out Angels&Vampires - great album
Mar 22nd 2012
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      man I guarantee OKP is the only place aside from his own fansites
Mar 22nd 2012
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TTD is a beast.
Mar 22nd 2012
51
Daps to my man Pete - exactly. a monster live.
Mar 22nd 2012
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El Debarge wrote better songs and his songs have lasted longer
Mar 22nd 2012
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      hahaha.. his soul glo bottle.. WOW... hahaha...
Mar 23rd 2012
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he's cool.... definitely a uniqe voice.... but
Mar 22nd 2012
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Introducing has his most traditional songwriting/production
Mar 22nd 2012
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      I respect his desire to be unique and
Mar 22nd 2012
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      I think the fact you can't work him in your set is great.
Mar 23rd 2012
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inbocks
Mar 22nd 2012
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from the same Sam cooke school as Bobby Womack and R.Kelly
Mar 22nd 2012
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basically - well said maxx
Mar 23rd 2012
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his shit became too pretentious too me
Mar 22nd 2012
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see I can get with this answer - it's not based on sales or hits
Mar 23rd 2012
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generally speaking, his output was far too spotty.
Mar 22nd 2012
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Terence Trent D'Arby's second album was career suicide.
Mar 22nd 2012
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I think the general view of TTD fans is his second was a masterpiece
Mar 23rd 2012
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      I see a hella copies of his 2nd album in the used section for cheap.
Mar 23rd 2012
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           ^lmao - really?
Mar 23rd 2012
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and if you haven't caught on - I'm just trying to get the blood flowing
Mar 23rd 2012
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