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"This article about Rihanna Hit Making Machine is pretty sad (swipe)"


  

          

It's a long read

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/03/26/120326fa_fact_seabrook

but it's an incredibly fascinating look at how a lot of Rihanna and other pop singers (Pink, Katy Perry, etc.) songs get made. All new information to me.

I found it particularly sad for a couple of reasons:

1. These folks are block buster singles oriented and don't seem interested in making full epic albums.

2. Because the songwriting (lyrics) are driven by the beat, the lyrics are almost secondary and just sounds to compliment the beat. No real thought whatsoever. Don't expect a ballad of Dorothy Parker coming from these folks.




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This article about Rihanna Hit Making Machine is pretty sad (swipe) [View all] , Buddy_Gilapagos, Wed Mar-21-12 01:06 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
1. albums are overrated, generally.
Mar 21st 2012
1
I agree that not all artists need to be making albums, especially
Mar 21st 2012
4
      I agree. I don't need to hear an album by rhianna
Mar 21st 2012
7
           i think there's room in the market for all of them.
Mar 21st 2012
9
doesnt Badu write to the beat? i'd consider this a sweeping generalizati...
Mar 21st 2012
2
I not critizing writing to the beat in general.
Mar 21st 2012
6
      i used to think Beyonce 'wrote' like Ester.
Mar 21st 2012
8
           It's kind of like the Beatles Yesterday = Scrambled Eggs
Mar 21st 2012
14
                that wouldve been great
Mar 21st 2012
18
                i dunno about that.
Mar 21st 2012
19
                     naw they just quoted her gibberish lyrics.
Mar 21st 2012
22
                          Boy you got my heart beat runnin away
Mar 21st 2012
23
                               touche.
Mar 21st 2012
25
damn.
Mar 21st 2012
3
About to read, but I don't have a problem with either of your two
Mar 21st 2012
5
Yoink:
Mar 21st 2012
10
^why Drake is winning.
Mar 21st 2012
12
      yup. he does three or four different hooks per song..lol
Mar 21st 2012
13
if this is about the camps, this is old as hell.
Mar 21st 2012
11
Huh? the article plubished this week is old as hell?
Mar 21st 2012
15
      that article is new
Mar 21st 2012
17
           yeah, two different articles with two different focuses. Interesting thi...
Mar 21st 2012
20
                RE: yeah, two different articles with two different focuses. Interesting...
Mar 22nd 2012
47
those artists can't handle the art of making albums
Mar 21st 2012
16
just curious, how do YOU see the "art"? what is the difference for you?
Mar 21st 2012
21
      if they can make 8 or more songs of a similar value
Mar 22nd 2012
34
it's like a combination of
Mar 21st 2012
24
hmmmm
Mar 21st 2012
26
i also believe this "hit-machine" shit is a product of rich execs
Mar 21st 2012
27
I agree with that
Mar 22nd 2012
35
Good read. It didn't disturb me at all.
Mar 21st 2012
28
they've been doing that in pop music since the 80's though
Mar 21st 2012
29
right. all the lyrics they quoted were laughably bad/trite.
Mar 21st 2012
30
yup... its not new...
Mar 22nd 2012
36
Most lyrics are beat or melody driven
Mar 21st 2012
31
chicken or the egg?
Mar 22nd 2012
32
      After reading the article...
Mar 22nd 2012
33
      yep
Mar 22nd 2012
37
           IDK. Singer-Songwriter is a relatively new phenomon
Mar 22nd 2012
39
                unless its in chant form, aint nobody listening to lyrics these days
Mar 22nd 2012
42
      This has been happening way longer than 10 years
Mar 22nd 2012
45
           that's what always made ryan leslie's Gibberish funny to me
Mar 22nd 2012
51
           I'm not sure about this...
Mar 23rd 2012
57
                I am sure it about it
Mar 23rd 2012
62
i like a nice 2 piece & a booty on biggie, whats really good?
Mar 22nd 2012
38
BTW, I don't believe this Esther chick gets 1M per hit song.
Mar 22nd 2012
40
i guess you gotta account for BDS spins, digital downloads,
Mar 22nd 2012
41
The failure of arts education means consumers want/enjoy crap.
Mar 22nd 2012
43
oh cmon. rude boy was jamming
Mar 22nd 2012
44
Beat driven lyric writing....... that just sounds bad...lol.
Mar 22nd 2012
46
Melody driven writing is how the originals you love did it.
Mar 22nd 2012
48
      yeah.... but there's a difference though.
Mar 22nd 2012
55
Whats the odds on this Esther girl ever putting out a alblum
Mar 22nd 2012
49
RE: Whats the odds on this Esther girl ever putting out a alblum
Mar 22nd 2012
50
Yeah she isn't that cute or have the strongest voice...
Mar 22nd 2012
53
Keri Hilson did, of course Keri fine as hell
Mar 23rd 2012
60
that Bonnie McKee chick is from my hood.
Mar 22nd 2012
52
RE: that Bonnie McKee chick is from my hood.
Mar 23rd 2012
58
I was reading this article wondering if she wasn't cute
Mar 22nd 2012
54
nothing new here at all
Mar 23rd 2012
56
Damn, Even 'Black & Yellow'?
Mar 23rd 2012
59
I always thouhgt that beat was bigger than Wiz
Mar 23rd 2012
63
No one's mentioned the Brill Building at all???
Mar 23rd 2012
61

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