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"Can We Have An Honest & Objective Conversation about Rick James?"
Tue Feb-14-12 01:31 PM by Artful Dodger

          

He was flat mates with Joni Mitchell and Neil Young at the same time?

He and Neil Young had a band together and was trying to get signed to Motown?

He was related to Melvin Franklin of the Temptations?

Standing on the Top is the only record with All 7 Temps?

He brought them back together?

He once had Stevie Wonder in the studio and Stevie was ... as Rick put it... "being Stevie and playing all over the record" and the engineer says "Man, you better stop him or it's gonna be a Stevie Wonder record featuring Rick James" so he leans into the mic and says

"Stevie, stop playing that bullshit. STFU and listen to my guide."

He then says he learned something - now matter how big a star you become you can stil become intimidated by greatness.

(Check Questo's post on working with Al Green for details)

When he won the American Music Awards R&B album of the year (I think it may have been 81) he accepted the award via satellite from his house with his dog "Ganja", pulls out a mini casio - turns on the drums of the casio - and sings his welcome and thank you while playing guitar).

He at some point was homeless in Canada, London, Buffalo, and LA.

Man... his original press photo he rocked his hair like Elvis complete with perm????

He was once booed at the Grammy's for leaning into the mic and saying to Stevie Wonder "Stevie you should see this". People were unware of their fondness for one another.

Often times P is credited with bringing synths to black music - but that simply isn't true - Bernie Worrell should get that credit and Sun Ra before him but... Rick was just as important.

  

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Can We Have An Honest & Objective Conversation about Rick James? [View all] , Artful Dodger, Tue Feb-14-12 01:27 PM
 
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no argument here.
Feb 14th 2012
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Rick James was the Last great Funkateer IMO
Feb 14th 2012
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Maxx went in - hell yeah.
Feb 14th 2012
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Yoooooooo,
Feb 15th 2012
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Terrific post
Feb 16th 2012
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RE: Rick James was the Last great Funkateer IMO
Feb 17th 2012
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      he did - but by our standards
Feb 18th 2012
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           RE: he did - but by our standards
Feb 19th 2012
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                great post - really nice breakdown
Feb 19th 2012
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                     RE: great post - really nice breakdown
Feb 19th 2012
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                          RE: great post - really nice breakdown
Feb 19th 2012
124
no mention of the legendary feud he and the Purple one carried on
Feb 14th 2012
4
Obviously one of my favorites...
Feb 14th 2012
5
Im going back to that album tonight lol!
Feb 14th 2012
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my comparison to Prince is really just my way of
Feb 15th 2012
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yeah man well said
Feb 15th 2012
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      Rick was a Funkster...but he was an R&B guy too..and really
Feb 15th 2012
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           yeah I totally agree - Throwin Down might have been too black
Feb 15th 2012
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                the thing about it too brother is that the environment was ripe for Rick
Feb 15th 2012
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                     ya know Warren that's a pretty awesome statement that you made
Feb 17th 2012
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Prince lasted longer,but he wasn't touching no Rick James
Feb 15th 2012
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      Stone City should be compared to the Revolution
Feb 15th 2012
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           to me I never cared for Prince's flower power paisley era except
Feb 15th 2012
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           alot of truth in there -
Feb 15th 2012
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                Prince's problem is he started believing his pres clippings
Feb 15th 2012
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           RE: Stone City should be compared to the Revolution
Feb 19th 2012
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                Yep truth -
Feb 19th 2012
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                     lol, 'ndeeds
Feb 19th 2012
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Real audio stream of Great White Cane album
Feb 15th 2012
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Tis why I love you brother - thank you!!! Long live that funk!
Feb 15th 2012
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My take...
Feb 15th 2012
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      Wait - Rick James is NOT in the HOF??? WTF?
Feb 15th 2012
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      RE: Wait - Rick James is NOT in the HOF??? WTF?
Feb 15th 2012
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           Man the Red Hot Chilli Peppers are culture vultures lol
Feb 15th 2012
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                RE: Man the Red Hot Chilli Peppers are culture vultures lol
Feb 15th 2012
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                haha... you have a point sir. Especially about Jackson Browne
Feb 15th 2012
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                Red Hot Chilli Peppers= Fishbone with Hits basically
Feb 16th 2012
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      the Hall of Fame is a Joke
Feb 15th 2012
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I recently got around to listening to Rick's late 80's output...
Feb 15th 2012
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Ya know I agree. Loosely's Rap to me was groundbreaking.
Feb 15th 2012
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Glow (the album) to me was Rick bringing back a LIVE sound
Feb 15th 2012
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It was a good move sonically - that video tho... smh.
Feb 15th 2012
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Glow was actually in the can since 1983 FYI
Feb 15th 2012
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      that's really interesting to note about Glow being in the can.
Feb 15th 2012
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           RE: that's really interesting to note about Glow being in the can.
Feb 15th 2012
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           Exactly - I think you nailed it - Rick was the bridge between
Feb 15th 2012
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           RE: Exactly - I think you nailed it - Rick was the bridge between
Feb 15th 2012
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                Cot dayum - excellent description. Can you imagine Hollywood?
Feb 15th 2012
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                     RE: Cot dayum - excellent description. Can you imagine Hollywood?
Feb 15th 2012
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                          Please share... at least one if you could.. lol... seriously
Feb 15th 2012
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                               RE: Please share... at least one if you could.. lol... seriously
Feb 15th 2012
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                                    Yo.
Feb 15th 2012
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                                         Thank you again for that man. I'm over here shaking my head. lol
Feb 15th 2012
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                                              Speaking of Eddie
Feb 19th 2012
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                                                   Yea he did - earlier in this post I explained he was the best
Feb 19th 2012
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                                                        RE: Yea he did - earlier in this post I explained he was the best
Feb 19th 2012
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           RE: that's really interesting to note about Glow being in the can.
Feb 19th 2012
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                man everyone is lol Gary & thomas dolby - underrated man
Feb 19th 2012
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           dude Please Prince took from Rick the stage and the studio
Feb 16th 2012
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                RE: dude Please Prince took from Rick the stage and the studio
Feb 16th 2012
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                     I have to agree with Murph here...
Feb 16th 2012
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                     RE: I have to agree with Murph here...
Feb 16th 2012
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                     RE: dude Please Prince took from Rick the stage and the studio
Feb 16th 2012
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                          RE: dude Please Prince took from Rick the stage and the studio
Feb 16th 2012
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                               meanwhile MJ sold out about almost 30 more dates than Prince
Feb 17th 2012
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                                    RE: meanwhile MJ sold out about almost 30 more dates than Prince
Feb 17th 2012
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                                    I have to agree. Wholeheartedly - it's like we need to move beyond
Feb 17th 2012
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                                    you know you and your self purple righteious agenda is tiring
Feb 17th 2012
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                                         RE: you know you and your self purple righteious agenda is tiring
Feb 17th 2012
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                                              Wait - Freddy Jackson over Prince?
Feb 17th 2012
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                                              RE: Wait - Freddy Jackson over Prince?
Feb 17th 2012
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                                                   I mean personal taste is that - but you have to be kidding Maxx
Feb 17th 2012
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                                                        RE: I mean personal taste is that - but you have to be kidding Maxx
Feb 17th 2012
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                                                             But your two of your arguments suffer the same fate
Feb 18th 2012
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                                                                  put the purple kool aid pitcher down man
Feb 18th 2012
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                                                                       but you bodied yourself with your opening statement lol
Feb 18th 2012
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                                                                       whatever dude, I'm real R&B Old school dude
Feb 19th 2012
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                                              RE: you know you and your self purple righteious agenda is tiring
Feb 17th 2012
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                                                   RE: you know you and your self purple righteious agenda is tiring
Feb 17th 2012
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                                    I have to disagree Maxx - Prince has moved on from pop hits
Feb 17th 2012
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                                         purple brainwashing powers 101, prince ain't counted since 88
Feb 17th 2012
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                                              C'mon man... haha..
Feb 17th 2012
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                                                   Michael Jackson just like WHitney Houston was that "IT" Act
Feb 17th 2012
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                                                        I hear you but let's look at it this way...
Feb 17th 2012
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                                                             dude Please, you don't know Michael Joe jackson and his impact
Feb 17th 2012
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                                                                  ya know these are some good points - cannot lie
Feb 18th 2012
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                                                                       RE: ya know these are some good points - cannot lie
Feb 18th 2012
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                                                                       Basically - I mean I won't lie Rkellys throwback album
Feb 18th 2012
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                                                                       RE: Basically - I mean I won't lie Rkellys throwback album
Feb 18th 2012
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                                                                       well murph FYI Love Letter is gold check your facts and figures
Feb 18th 2012
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                                                                            RE: well murph FYI Love Letter is gold check your facts and figures
Feb 18th 2012
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                                                                       we are all bias but yours is scary and to the point of laughable
Feb 18th 2012
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                                                                            hahaha - you just rewrote exacty what I said
Feb 18th 2012
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                                                                                 when you flip the script and create two classic albums
Feb 19th 2012
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I co sign to the fullest!
Feb 15th 2012
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I know I'm in the minority.... but I thought The Flag was a solid album
Feb 15th 2012
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      No I'm with you I even like Freak Flag
Feb 15th 2012
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      the flag had Maceo Parker on there amongest others
Feb 16th 2012
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I wish the Stone City Band's albums could go back into print
Feb 15th 2012
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their talent yes - their sound no. All Rick.
Feb 15th 2012
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his Boy from the Buffalo Levi Ruffin on keys had a sound
Feb 15th 2012
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      man thank you for putting names with the faces cause I have always
Feb 15th 2012
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           Bobby Nunn is one of my fave artists
Feb 19th 2012
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                Yep and that is not the first time Rick has that problem
Feb 19th 2012
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                RE: Yep and that is not the first time Rick has that problem
Feb 19th 2012
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                I kind of wish those records would get a proper reissue
Feb 20th 2012
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                     RE: I kind of wish those records would get a proper reissue
Feb 20th 2012
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Rick James Radio on Live 365.com
Feb 15th 2012
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was/is anbody else, still into the Deeper Still album?
Feb 15th 2012
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i bought my copy back in 07.
Feb 15th 2012
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it's funny how there can't be a rick james post
Feb 17th 2012
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RE: it's funny how there can't be a rick james post
Feb 17th 2012
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Actually it's how it started in another post.
Feb 17th 2012
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Pretty much.
Feb 17th 2012
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      And yet it still happened
Feb 17th 2012
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It's because greats are compared to other greats
Feb 17th 2012
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Exactly.
Feb 17th 2012
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Not on here, they aren't
Feb 18th 2012
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      Right that's true. I even heard cats in the barbershop go in
Feb 18th 2012
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He's not actually related to Melvin Franklin.
Feb 17th 2012
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RE: He's not actually related to Melvin Franklin.
Feb 17th 2012
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Yeah it is
Feb 18th 2012
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Tell me about the latter of the two things you've mentioned here
Feb 17th 2012
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      Yeah, I have "Reunion". It's okay.
Feb 18th 2012
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           Then you have seen the video with All 7 Tempts?
Feb 18th 2012
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                What exactly did he achieve tho?
Feb 19th 2012
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                     You gotta take that up with rick james bro - again - his words
Feb 19th 2012
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                          RE: You gotta take that up with rick james bro - again - his words
Feb 20th 2012
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                               ah treat her like a lady - that's right
Feb 20th 2012
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                               bottom line Rick James hook those Brothers up
Feb 20th 2012
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                               yep exactly cause even if standing on the top wasn't the last
Feb 20th 2012
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                               no one's "throwing shade" at Rick James.
May 13th 2012
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                               that I think was why it was a big deal
Feb 20th 2012
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                                    yep my uncle says the same thing
Feb 20th 2012
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                                    Again, Melvin said _everyone_ he liked was blood family.
May 13th 2012
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                                    I feel like the Tempts did just fine without Ruffin, but not Kendricks.
May 13th 2012
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                                         word, I can dig this
May 13th 2012
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I really need to get Rick James' book.
Feb 19th 2012
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Man his life was movie unto itself - real rockstar shit
Feb 19th 2012
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      Oh I can believe it.
Feb 20th 2012
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           man between Rick, Rich, Redd, Miles, Marvin and Iggy
Feb 20th 2012
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Fuck it, since the post is still here, i got a question
Feb 20th 2012
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it wasn't about that
Feb 20th 2012
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give it to me baby is about being so high that you can't perform
Feb 20th 2012
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      Maxx really educated us in this post - my respect has skyrocketed
Feb 21st 2012
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one of the GOAT
May 13th 2012
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