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LowOnMyPaper
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"Beyonce's greatness an "assumption"?"


  

          

Jay Caspian Kang on Beyonce, in an article about The X Factor:

"How cynical and lazy we have become! How complacent! We have lionized a bland corporate beauty who, even when she's trying (and she tries), cannot make you feel a thing about anything. Why has Beyoncé's greatness become an assumption? A ubiquitous assumption, at that? Why, when Barack needed someone to sing at his inauguration, did he default to an artist who, in 50 years, when the Ant Overlords dissect our "culture," will be dismissed as an example of how to effectively market blandness, perfect hair, and enticing thighs to the masses? Why have we just accepted Beyoncé as something good, something to be admired, something worth celebrating? Has she ever made anyone cry? Does she raise goose bumps? Or do we just appreciate her, the same way we appreciate the terra cotta soldiers or El Greco? Yes, it's impressive one person can do that, but when all is said and done, all you have is a bunch of pretty shit jammed together in one space. Over the past 10 years, I have had dozens of conversations about the Queen B with people who are much smarter than me. I have yet to meet anyone who has any strong opinion about her. Sure, a lot of people say they love Beyoncé but only out of a sense of duty, almost as if admitting to not liking Beyoncé would cast them as soulless neophytes who, by extension, also hate Barack Obama, Aretha Franklin, Ma Rainey, and Muhammad Ali.

I don't buy into any of that. I refuse to accept Sasha Fierce. I watch singing competitions because I believe that life can be better than Beyoncé."

Thoughts? Has Beyonce ever moved you with her music?

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Beyonce's greatness an "assumption"? [View all] , LowOnMyPaper, Thu Oct-20-11 01:53 PM
 
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I generally agree with his opinions
Oct 20th 2011
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lank
Oct 20th 2011
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Beyonce got all the goods but the Songs and that Soul
Oct 20th 2011
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Well said. n/m
Oct 20th 2011
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RE: Beyonce got all the goods but the Songs and that Soul
Oct 20th 2011
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RE: Beyonce's greatness an "assumption"?
Oct 20th 2011
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What does THIS have to do w/anything?
Oct 20th 2011
9
prince
Oct 20th 2011
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she appeared w/P at the Grammys in 2004.
Oct 20th 2011
11
Prince certified Sheena Easton, you're gonna have to do better than this
Oct 20th 2011
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most of the women that prince "certified" was exceptionally fine...
Oct 20th 2011
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he also thought people in the new power generation could rap...
Oct 20th 2011
16
naw. her 'greatness' is not about Prince at all.
Oct 20th 2011
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her and Prince on the grammys was a Power lunch 101 in hollywood
Oct 20th 2011
29
her 'greatness' is usually based on her work ethic.
Oct 20th 2011
6
Has Beyonce ever moved you with her music
Oct 20th 2011
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Not that anyone is moved by gaga, but
Oct 20th 2011
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RE: Beyonce's greatness an "assumption"?
Oct 20th 2011
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RE: Beyonce's greatness an "assumption"?
Oct 20th 2011
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      RE: Beyonce's greatness an "assumption"?
Oct 20th 2011
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she can't emote.
Oct 20th 2011
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if not her...who?
Oct 20th 2011
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^ see?
Oct 20th 2011
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Agreed, there has to be someone, and only 1
Oct 20th 2011
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      smh
Oct 20th 2011
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      let me help you.
Oct 20th 2011
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Hmmm
Oct 20th 2011
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      RE: Hmmm
Oct 20th 2011
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"Love on top" might be one of the only, maybe the first song from her
Oct 20th 2011
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ppl have collectively willed her to greatness
Oct 21st 2011
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Is Diana Ross Great?
Oct 21st 2011
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yes, because diana ross has at least 2 CD's worth of brilliant songs.
Oct 21st 2011
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yes
Oct 21st 2011
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      aaaaaand she did all that with like 3 kids
Oct 24th 2011
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She is 20times better than Janet could ever dream to be
Oct 21st 2011
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cot damn you're wrong.
Oct 21st 2011
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      You're obviously not a 12-32 Y.O. woman
Oct 21st 2011
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      actually, let me edit the second part of this for clarity...
Oct 21st 2011
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           you already come into the battle that Janet music is better
Oct 21st 2011
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           No one sincerely loves Bs output.
Oct 21st 2011
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           RE: No one sincerely loves Bs output.
Oct 21st 2011
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                I don't think they do.
Oct 21st 2011
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                     You just defined Pop Icon
Oct 21st 2011
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                          I was responding to the point about the music output, though.
Oct 21st 2011
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                               exactly.
Oct 21st 2011
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                                    which is more of an indictment of Pop Music
Oct 21st 2011
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                                         I've got 0 problems with kids liking her.
Oct 21st 2011
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                                              Because the pop music landscape is so awful
Oct 21st 2011
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                                                   so why can't we just say this: "nobody is really great right now."
Oct 21st 2011
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                                                        Metrics
Oct 21st 2011
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                                                             even if that respect, she's not seeing MJ or the beatles.
Oct 21st 2011
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           RE: you already come into the battle that Janet music is better
Oct 21st 2011
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           B is a quantity over quality artist.
Oct 21st 2011
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      Diane had a beautiful, subtle tone.
Oct 21st 2011
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           i agree. i only said she "arguablly" couldn't sing
Oct 21st 2011
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                Diane couldn't SANG
Oct 21st 2011
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There aren't valid arguments for anyone else.
Oct 21st 2011
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why does it have to be about anyone else?
Oct 21st 2011
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      It doesn't.
Oct 21st 2011
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           lol see #6.
Oct 21st 2011
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                Ha! So we agree.
Oct 21st 2011
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                     LOL
Oct 21st 2011
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History abhors a diva vacuum
Oct 21st 2011
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being the best in a wack era does not equal greatness
Oct 21st 2011
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Technically, all levels of "greatness" are assumptions aren't they? n/m
Oct 21st 2011
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Beyonce vs Jay-Z
Oct 24th 2011
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a few critical differences.
Oct 24th 2011
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      niggas in the barbershop
Oct 24th 2011
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           like i said...
Oct 24th 2011
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