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"can we agree that in terms of complex lyric writing, rock>>>>soul"


          

i mean when he talkin about lyric writers who are considered almost poets like dylan, waits, cohen, cave.

i aint talkin bout pop song writing. obv stevie marv an them got their weight up in that area.

but besides a cat like gil scott i cant really think of many soul artist with complex, dense lyrics. that shit just dont really translate to soul.

  
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can we agree that in terms of complex lyric writing, rock>>>>soul [View all] , d-bwoyFLOW, Wed Jun-22-11 11:29 AM
 
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what does 'complex' mean? self-conscious? pretentious?
Jun 22nd 2011
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RE: what does 'complex' mean? self-conscious? pretentious?
Jun 22nd 2011
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      I could. But why should I have to?
Jun 22nd 2011
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           RE: I could. But why should I have to?
Jun 22nd 2011
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                please go play on the tracks.
Jun 22nd 2011
7
nope, we probably won't agree.
Jun 22nd 2011
2
jesus christ.
Jun 22nd 2011
5
Good Luck With This Post
Jun 22nd 2011
8
Oh Dear !
Jun 22nd 2011
9
i think the soul style of singing doesn't lend itself well to overly
Jun 22nd 2011
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RE: i think the soul style of singing doesn't lend itself well to overly
Jun 22nd 2011
11
I love how this dude just disqualifies Stevie & Marvin
Jun 22nd 2011
12
RE: I love how this dude just disqualifies Stevie & Marvin
Jun 22nd 2011
13
      I got your "emotional ho" right here
Jun 22nd 2011
14
           thats the best you got son?
Jun 22nd 2011
15
           check the edit
Jun 22nd 2011
17
           how about this?
Jun 22nd 2011
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                or this?
Jun 22nd 2011
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                or this:
Jun 22nd 2011
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                     This:
Jun 22nd 2011
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                          dunno if this counts as 'soul'...
Jun 22nd 2011
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                               or this
Jun 23rd 2011
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                RE: ^^^^^Indeed.
Jun 22nd 2011
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                     RE: ^^^^^Indeed.
Jun 23rd 2011
34
                          Why is C Mayfield acting like a dick?
Jun 23rd 2011
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                               RE: Curtis and GSH begat hip hop lyricism.
Jun 23rd 2011
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           such a classic
Jun 25th 2011
79
Can of Worms.
Jun 22nd 2011
16
RE: can we agree that in terms of complex lyric writing, rock>>>>soul
Jun 22nd 2011
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GTFOHWTBShiggedy!
Jun 22nd 2011
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"you think big emotions only come from big words"?
Jun 22nd 2011
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lol @ this bullshit
Jun 22nd 2011
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Agreed.
Jun 22nd 2011
28
I agree in the sense that there's not going to be a soul version of KID ...
Jun 22nd 2011
29
does all this stuff = 'complex' though?
Jun 22nd 2011
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      For me, complexity is something I can't immediately understand
Jun 23rd 2011
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      This is a good question
Jun 25th 2011
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I think rock has more lyricists who could be called complex
Jun 22nd 2011
31
another jive under 18 year old turkey who don't like Black artists
Jun 23rd 2011
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like you don't do the same thing
Jun 23rd 2011
44
      everybody knows that Black artists make it do what it do
Jun 23rd 2011
52
           lol.
Jun 23rd 2011
58
not more complex, more varied subject matter though
Jun 23rd 2011
33
yeah id probably agree with that^^^
Jun 23rd 2011
38
try some eugene mcdaniels. or sly.
Jun 23rd 2011
39
badu is a great more recent example if you want opaqueness
Jun 23rd 2011
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or even
Jun 23rd 2011
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      That's because she's influenced by 1990s hip-hop.
Jun 23rd 2011
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           badu is terrible
Jun 23rd 2011
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                badu is terrible at what?
Jun 23rd 2011
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                RE: badu is terrible at what?
Jun 23rd 2011
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                i think you are after something like the first funkadelic album
Jun 23rd 2011
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It's a poorly worded post but I can see what he's saying
Jun 23rd 2011
46
country lyrics are generally not abstract, though.
Jun 23rd 2011
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      Fair enough, but they're typically well written and atmospheric
Jun 23rd 2011
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           country is mostly narrative based
Jun 23rd 2011
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           The narrative strain is still there
Jun 23rd 2011
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           has the lesson ever talked about soul singers going country?
Jun 24th 2011
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                I remember talking about it before
Jun 24th 2011
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                RE: has the lesson ever talked about soul singers going country?
Jun 24th 2011
62
                     but see, i hear crazy in love as a tribute to god
Jun 24th 2011
63
if by complex you mean "boring" i'm with you
Jun 23rd 2011
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^^^^^^^^^^BROKE IT DOWN^^^^^^^^^^^^
Jun 24th 2011
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i think you sound racist as fuck
Jun 23rd 2011
56
Sure is racist rock critic mentality in here...
Jun 23rd 2011
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you touchy little bitches
Jun 24th 2011
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      U Mad?
Jun 24th 2011
64
      ay...eat the cake anna mae
Jun 24th 2011
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           For the record: I don't see anything racist about this post.
Jun 24th 2011
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                RE: "Rockist' as hell, though.
Jun 24th 2011
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                yep.
Jun 24th 2011
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                thats great bro, but it sounds racist as fuck
Jun 24th 2011
68
                     but he also says hip-hop has the most complex lyrics
Jun 24th 2011
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                     and if he considers hiphop to be a greater genre
Jun 24th 2011
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                     Yeah but he's probably talking about El-P types
Jun 25th 2011
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                          ugh, I work with a couple of these guys
Jun 25th 2011
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                          RE: Yeah but he's probably talking about El-P types
Jun 25th 2011
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                               Rock is a more interesting genre to you than Soul
Jun 25th 2011
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                     Underlying racism is all over the whole Rockist attitude
Jun 25th 2011
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                          RE: Underlying racism is all over the whole Rockist attitude
Jun 28th 2011
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Funkadelic - Good Thoughts, Bad Thoughts
Jun 25th 2011
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RE: Funkadelic - Good Thoughts, Bad Thoughts
Jun 28th 2011
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      to be fair, a lot of classic dylan is heroin'd out his mind
Jun 29th 2011
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      hahah good pick i just saw McCabe and Mrs. Miller
Jun 29th 2011
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      One of them...
Jun 29th 2011
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This post really should've been an abstract vs. direct
Jun 29th 2011
83
Bingo
Jun 29th 2011
88
Where is mistermaxxx?
Jun 29th 2011
87

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