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Subject: "was anyone else annoyed at sony trying to clean up riot?"
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GumDrops
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Wed Jun-01-11 11:17 AM
59. "was anyone else annoyed at sony trying to clean up riot?"
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when they did the remasters?
i cant be the only one.
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Why is "Stand!" considered lesser-than "There's a Riot Goin On"?
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Wed Jun-01-11 01:47 AM
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Sex Machine...
Jakob Hellberg
Jun 01st 2011
1
RE: This is the long and short of it right here:
Austin
Jun 01st 2011
39
"That jam is just incredibly dull and lasts way too long."
Nukkapedia
Jun 01st 2011
81
RE: You prefer it to Riot.
Austin
Jun 01st 2011
91
its like an actor doing a comedy and then does something serious
mistermaxxx08
Jun 01st 2011
2
Dont know much about them.......
denny
Jun 01st 2011
3
every song from "stand" is also on the 70's "greatest hits" compilation.
Joe Corn Mo
Jun 01st 2011
4
the early stuff makes "riot" work better, imo. gives it contrast.
Joe Corn Mo
Jun 01st 2011
5
cause its a lesser album and you right
Menphyel7
Jun 01st 2011
6
how is it definitively lesser, minus a pro cynical point of view?
Nukkapedia
Jun 01st 2011
14
my opinion......it is a lesser album
Menphyel7
Jun 01st 2011
36
folks elevate albums with more grand mythology
AFKAP_of_Darkness
Jun 01st 2011
7
RE: folks elevate albums with more grand mythology
Joe Corn Mo
Jun 01st 2011
10
it's also more jazzy and funky than his other albums.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
11
SMH indeed... WTF?
Dr Claw
Jun 01st 2011
13
yeah, everybody knows I Want You is his best album ever.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
15
uh...
Nukkapedia
Jun 01st 2011
17
My bad, I meant Trouble Man.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
18
its midnight lover, dont be silly.
GumDrops
Jun 01st 2011
22
Vulnerable rules them all.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
23
Vulnerable is fucking awesome.
AFKAP_of_Darkness
Jun 01st 2011
24
it is. very underrated.
GumDrops
Jun 01st 2011
29
I agree.
AFKAP_of_Darkness
Jun 01st 2011
32
Here, My Dear is a strange interesting and brave album.
AFKAP_of_Darkness
Jun 01st 2011
19
when did you stop loving me is one of his top 5 songs though
GumDrops
Jun 01st 2011
38
RE: Marvin.
Austin
Jun 01st 2011
48
it's.. okay.
shockzilla
Jun 01st 2011
60
RE: Midnight Love
Austin
Jun 01st 2011
76
that production
Dr Claw
Jun 01st 2011
95
RE: Which album?
Austin
Jun 01st 2011
96
Midnight Love
Dr Claw
Jun 01st 2011
99
RE: Yeah, ok.
Austin
Jun 01st 2011
101
RE: Marvin.
Joe Corn Mo
Jun 01st 2011
75
RE: Marvin.
Dr Claw
Jun 01st 2011
97
Stand! was also the first Sly album I heard.
Ashley Ayers
Jun 01st 2011
8
oh, stop it.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
9
it goes beyond people "not liking" Stand!
Nukkapedia
Jun 01st 2011
16
No. No they do not.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
20
yeah, i've also never seen that.
shockzilla
Jun 01st 2011
63
it's happening right here in this post.
Nukkapedia
Jun 01st 2011
82
2 or 3 okps.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
88
lmmfao @ cadaver
Dr Claw
Jun 01st 2011
12
its not really. theyre both stone cold classics. but riot has the most
GumDrops
Jun 01st 2011
21
Stand is a shorter LP and the songs on Stand
c71
Jun 01st 2011
25
Those two songs really mess up the groove of the album for me.
Ashley Ayers
Jun 01st 2011
26
you can't groove to 'Somebody's Watching You' and 'Stand'?
AFKAP_of_Darkness
Jun 01st 2011
27
when you hear stuff that is light years better on Riot like
c71
Jun 01st 2011
28
'Stand' is deceptively simple.
AFKAP_of_Darkness
Jun 01st 2011
33
Luv n haight is so genius it's not funny
c71
Jun 01st 2011
37
I love how your dismissal of the song is based
AFKAP_of_Darkness
Jun 01st 2011
42
I already said it was simple and straight-forward
c71
Jun 01st 2011
43
what does 'straightforward' mean?
AFKAP_of_Darkness
Jun 01st 2011
47
both albums nailed the spirit of the time.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
49
That always works.
AFKAP_of_Darkness
Jun 01st 2011
52
Riot is more hip-hop than Stand!.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
55
Luv&Haight and Stand are actually quite similar in structure...
Jakob Hellberg
Jun 01st 2011
79
hmmm....
AFKAP_of_Darkness
Jun 01st 2011
83
yup.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
86
RE: Luv&Haight and Stand are actually quite similar in structure...
c71
Jun 01st 2011
89
RE: Luv&Haight and Stand are actually quite similar in structure...
Jakob Hellberg
Jun 01st 2011
93
Another thing....
denny
Jun 01st 2011
98
I groove to all of those on my iPod.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
31
RE: I groove to all of those on my iPod.
c71
Jun 01st 2011
34
'Africa Talks To You' and 'Sex Machine' are equally grating.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
45
I think Africa.. is MUCH better...
Jakob Hellberg
Jun 01st 2011
80
uhm, ok.
Nukkapedia
Jun 01st 2011
84
i love that riff.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
87
Much of the song is an ''exercise'' in tension and release...
Jakob Hellberg
Jun 01st 2011
90
agreed.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
92
riot is an ALBUM-album though
GumDrops
Jun 01st 2011
40
the highs on Stand! are higher than those on Riot.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
46
stand is also much more pop
GumDrops
Jun 01st 2011
50
yup. but the lows on Riot hit so much harder than those on Stand!
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
56
That 'Just Like a Baby' intro is as bluesy as blues gets.
AFKAP_of_Darkness
Jun 01st 2011
57
i dunno if that's one of the songs Bobby Womack played on
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
64
anyone read womack's biography?
GumDrops
Jun 01st 2011
67
He does mention it
AFKAP_of_Darkness
Jun 01st 2011
69
Larry plays the bass on 'Thank You', i think?
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
70
Yeah, I think you are right.
AFKAP_of_Darkness
Jun 01st 2011
72
Absolutely right
Milt88
Jun 01st 2011
102
I felt like I could hear BW's voice on that
AFKAP_of_Darkness
Jun 01st 2011
103
i hear it.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
104
Stand! all day. Riot is the birth of boredom funk to me
KangolLove
Jun 01st 2011
30
I feel you.
AFKAP_of_Darkness
Jun 01st 2011
35
Exactly... I've been trying to put my finger on it
KangolLove
Jun 01st 2011
41
'It's a mood record' (c) Voodoo apologists
AFKAP_of_Darkness
Jun 01st 2011
44
okp loves production
GumDrops
Jun 01st 2011
51
Riot definitely has songs
AFKAP_of_Darkness
Jun 01st 2011
54
have you ever done hardcore drugs?
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
53
Nope
KangolLove
Jun 01st 2011
61
Actually, there *are* lots of changes...
Jakob Hellberg
Jun 01st 2011
78
i just noticed my iTunes ratings on these albums.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
58
no, b/c i have the album on original vinyl too.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
62
me too lol
GumDrops
Jun 01st 2011
65
yeah, it's better murky.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
66
RE: Why is "Stand!" considered lesser-than "There's a Riot Goin On"?
ajiav
Jun 01st 2011
68
you know what IS rated less than riot or stand?
GumDrops
Jun 01st 2011
71
I got into those two records really, really late.
AFKAP_of_Darkness
Jun 01st 2011
73
Small Talk sounds like Sly's version of an Al Green album.
SoWhat
Jun 01st 2011
74
Life is the underrated one4 IMO...
Jakob Hellberg
Jun 01st 2011
77
It's Funny. Fresh and Small Talk are my faves by far.
Nopayne
Jun 01st 2011
85
Stand is every bit as good as Riot IMO.....
rorschach
Jun 01st 2011
94
i actually prefer Fresh
Crash Bandacoot
Jun 01st 2011
100
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