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24. "I agree LC 'won' based on largerly non-musical factors, BUT"
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To me, skills are not enough to guarantee popularity.

Could Fishbone kick Living Colour's ass? Most definitely.

But I don't think anyone could dispute that Living Colour navigated the industry much better than Fishbone. It sucks, but you have to know how to operate within the industry as an artist. Especially for black acts, it's very hard to be completely uncompromising.

I think that uncompromising attitude gained them a lot of credibility among other artists, but it hurt them commercially.

I mean, listening to Truth and Soul, Reality of My Surroundings, and Give A Money A Brain - there is a lot of diversity on those records. And STILL people say none of their albums captured what they were really like live. That is pretty astounding. I mean, damn, if those gave a limited view of the band, maybe it was impossible to capture them in the studio. Some acts are like that. Maybe they should have dropped a live album or video between 1991 and 94.

One thing I didn't know before seeing the movie was that Fishbone wasn't even thinking about a deal. They were happy just doing shows. It shows they maybe they weren't really taking it serious as a career, unlike Vernon Reid.

Even with the Dallas Austin album, I think that could have worked out better for them if they had been willing to compromise. He was trying to give them a hit. But no, Angelo wanted to go theramin crazy (LOL) and Norwood is talking about he wanted to do an underground album.

> And since when are Rock Stars supposed to be well behaved and
> managable? Isn't that the POINT?

I agree. But selling lots of records makes it easier for the label to put up with difficult personalities. Six or seven guys with different ideas on what needs to be done makes it hard to work with a label. Maybe if someone had stepped up to be The Leader things would have been different.

I'm also wondering if Branford, Ice T and Flea had so much love for them, why didn't they try to elevate Fishbone when they were riding high? Do a track with them, hype them during interviews, something.

  

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"Everyday Sunshine:The Story of Fishbone" Documentary... [View all] , disco dj, Sun Apr-17-11 10:59 AM
 
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i wholeheartedly support the shit out of this post nm
Apr 17th 2011
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not sure if you knew about it,
Apr 17th 2011
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RE: "Everyday Sunshine:The Story of Fishbone" Documentary...
Apr 17th 2011
3
Anything you can add about the Kendall story?
Apr 17th 2011
4
Norwood caught the charge, not the whole band
Apr 18th 2011
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I've been dying to see this
Apr 17th 2011
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RE: I have nothing to add except. . .
Apr 17th 2011
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really?
Apr 18th 2011
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RE: really?
Apr 24th 2011
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RE: I have nothing to add except. . .
Apr 18th 2011
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nah he's a real cool approachable dude
Apr 19th 2011
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I've also interacted with Angelo and I wouldn't describe him as "full of...
Apr 20th 2011
45
excellent doc, I didn't know Kendall left the cult
Apr 18th 2011
7
well they never really said he *left*...
Apr 18th 2011
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      RE: well they never really said he *left*...
Apr 18th 2011
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      I kinda disagree here,
Apr 18th 2011
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           RE: I kinda disagree here,
Apr 18th 2011
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                what could be more off the wall than calling LC "very hard rock"?
Apr 18th 2011
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                     RE: what could be more off the wall than calling LC "very hard rock"?
Apr 18th 2011
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                     perfect.
Apr 18th 2011
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                     RE: perfect.
Apr 18th 2011
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                     RE: what could be more off the wall than calling LC "very hard rock"?
Apr 19th 2011
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                          look this is a track LC made a video for- not just a CD track
Apr 19th 2011
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                               I waited for a while but I got to go now but Wed 4/20/11
Apr 19th 2011
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                                    interest seems to have waned, eh, I still said I'd be back and
Apr 20th 2011
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                     same with funny vibe?
Apr 19th 2011
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                          meaning it TOO was a Pop Song.
Apr 19th 2011
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                               hmm- never really struck me as a pop song
Apr 20th 2011
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      yeah, Kendall seemed robotic, zoned out, or som'n
Apr 18th 2011
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           EVERYTHING you said is probably a fact...BUT ( lol...)
Apr 18th 2011
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                yeah, I think Ice-T was full of shit...
Apr 18th 2011
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                     RE: yeah, I think Ice-T was full of shit...
Apr 19th 2011
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                          I thought Ice T put Everlast on
Apr 19th 2011
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                          and at THAT point, they wouldn't have been *backing* anybody.
Apr 19th 2011
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                          Not that he should've Blown them up.
Apr 19th 2011
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                               RE: Not that he should've Blown them up.
Apr 19th 2011
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                                    zactly,discos just spittin shrapnel @ any/everyone on behalf of his boys
Apr 20th 2011
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                                    where are you gettin all THAT from?
Apr 20th 2011
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                                         RE: where are you gettin all THAT from?
Apr 24th 2011
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                                    you guys are going waaaaaaay to the extreme.
Apr 20th 2011
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                                         RE: you guys are going waaaaaaay to the extreme.
Apr 21st 2011
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                They were just "safer" than FB
Apr 19th 2011
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                     and that's ALL it was...n/m
Apr 19th 2011
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                          they also had a stronger singer, better guitarist, wrote songs that
Apr 20th 2011
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                               bottom line is LC went 'all in' with the machine
Apr 20th 2011
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                               ennh, I hate the whole "better" thing. It's all relative.
Apr 20th 2011
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I posted about it back in January. It's a great doc...
Apr 18th 2011
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Chris Dowd interview: *swipe*
Apr 18th 2011
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informative read, thanks for posting this.
Apr 18th 2011
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      I always liked his writing and singing...
Apr 18th 2011
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           I think a lot of artists have assholish tendencies
Apr 18th 2011
25
damn!!!! Wish I had known about this when it was here...
Apr 18th 2011
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