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imcvspl
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"On the real... fuck hip-hop studies and academic shit"


  

          

It ain't that I don't feel that studying hip-hop is important. I definitely do. But fuck all them motherfuckers. Straight up. And you know why? Because them motherfuckers NEVER talk about the music. NEVER. It's always the social context of this. And the political context of that. Fuck all of that shit. I always have but now I'm really starting to question if these motherfuckers actually like hip-hop. I suspect a lot of them don't. It's like anthropologists and some indigenous culutre. You don't give a fuck about them people and what they do. You just want to disect them down to your bullshit academic terms to validate yourself. And in the process end up exposing them to all these ideas that they never needed in the first place.

I'm so sick and tired of this shit. Talk about the music directly or shut the fuck up. Seriously, I don't think any genre of music has been discussed in academic books without talking about the actual music.... like ever. It's disgusting.
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On the real... fuck hip-hop studies and academic shit [View all] , imcvspl, Wed Apr-13-11 08:01 AM
 
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Well, I hate to put out a fire with Gasoline, but in THIS case...
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I strongly disagree with this point
Apr 13th 2011
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Yep...
Apr 13th 2011
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I knew this was coming...
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      just cos it cant be notated
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      And western music notation is not the only kind of notation
Apr 13th 2011
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           BA DA BING!!!
Apr 13th 2011
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                I'm not anti- Hip Hop. You should know that.
Apr 13th 2011
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                     this is way off course but...
Apr 13th 2011
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                          how can somebody defend what they don't respect?
Apr 13th 2011
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                               Let me backtrack a bit. There's a lesson head teaching
Apr 13th 2011
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      The lack of notes is not important...
Apr 13th 2011
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      I would think that this would be the easiest part of hip hop to notate
Apr 13th 2011
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      been there... done that... academics ain't give a FUCK!!
Apr 13th 2011
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      imho the problem is the same one a lot of 'heads' have too
Apr 13th 2011
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      DJ Radar did that a while ago...
Apr 13th 2011
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      Its not much different than scanning meter in poetry.
Apr 13th 2011
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      Wrong.
Apr 13th 2011
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      RE: I knew this was coming...
Apr 14th 2011
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I'll grant you that. BUT...
Apr 13th 2011
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      this was a big part of my argument a few years back
Apr 13th 2011
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           yep. and they're just gettin' all bent outta shape.
Apr 13th 2011
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                Hollar at Thee Phantom he's got a show coming up
Apr 13th 2011
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they shouldnt do academic studies on dance music either then
Apr 13th 2011
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Reply # 7
Apr 13th 2011
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      but it all sounds the same
Apr 13th 2011
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           see, if you're just fuckin' with me, I'll stop here.
Apr 13th 2011
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                ha
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                just curious
Apr 13th 2011
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                most dance music i hear now is just programming
Apr 13th 2011
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                     also
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                     i mean, you got to know music just to chop a sample correctly
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                          you don't have to know shit but how to program an MPC.
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                               of course you don't have to know any of that, u have to have an ear
Apr 13th 2011
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                     Key Phrase:"most dance music i hear now" meaning YOU.
Apr 13th 2011
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                          you're full of shit, and here's why
Apr 13th 2011
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                               I'm not full of shit...you just can't read.
Apr 13th 2011
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                                    um, i never looked nor sought validation for hip hop music
Apr 13th 2011
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Technically Gregorian Chant is the LEAST musical*
Apr 13th 2011
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c'mon man...you know better than this.
Apr 13th 2011
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      No... Gregorian chant is monophonic. No harmonies.
Apr 13th 2011
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           you CAN'T be serious.
Apr 13th 2011
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WOW!
Apr 13th 2011
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i seen it in "Fade to Black"
Dec 29th 2011
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im curious what people do with these degrees
Apr 13th 2011
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like all academics
Apr 13th 2011
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RE: On the real... fuck hip-hop studies and academic shit
Apr 13th 2011
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I've always agreed with this
Apr 13th 2011
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It's an excellent point
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      true, it is a thin line
Apr 13th 2011
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yeah, a lot of hiphop scholarship is bullshit
Apr 13th 2011
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Clearly y'all missed this post.
Apr 13th 2011
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Half of your posts
Apr 13th 2011
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what sparked this?
Apr 13th 2011
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it's been building up for years
Apr 13th 2011
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Two scholars I respect for their work on the music
Apr 13th 2011
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Hip Hop and academics has been a very bad marriage.
Apr 13th 2011
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Why can't hip-hop be studied contextually and musically?
Apr 14th 2011
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But the point here is.....
Apr 14th 2011
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      This is absolutely true.
Apr 14th 2011
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aww, my work is done here
Apr 14th 2011
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lol you have the weirdest anti-science agenda
Apr 14th 2011
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"Not until I'm purified"
Apr 14th 2011
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That isn't "anti-science." And that's a valid criticism of anthropology....
Apr 14th 2011
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Doesn't 9th teach a caourse on hip hip
Apr 14th 2011
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he doesn't teach it by himself, same with Bun B
Apr 14th 2011
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^^
Dec 28th 2011
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eh, I'd sit around with my professor jamming No Limit and Gucci
Dec 28th 2011
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Naw, I like it
Dec 28th 2011
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Michael Eric Dyson is a sorry little bitch. Fuck him and his bullshit bo...
Dec 28th 2011
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MED is a culture pimp.
Dec 28th 2011
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I only respect two, three music academics
Dec 28th 2011
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Glad I've seen this thread now...
Dec 28th 2011
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respiration
Dec 28th 2011
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But what if the academics were Gramsci-ian?
Dec 28th 2011
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over the summer during the intro to
Dec 28th 2011
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I wouldn't pay for my kid to study hip-hop studies in college.
Dec 29th 2011
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*ear to ear grin @ this*
Dec 29th 2011
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