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"James "Jay Dee / J Dilla" Yancey is also the Hendrix of our Generation"


  

          

Yup. I said it.
Think about it hard.
Think about it real hard.

Yes apart of it stems from his passing. Yes unlike Jimi there will be many artists who will be able to surpass him (some who already have). But he laid down a musical blueprint like Jimi. And in his relatively short career left a legacy of music both official and unofficial that will be studied and listened to for the years to come.

Do the knowledge.
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James "Jay Dee / J Dilla" Yancey is also the Hendrix of our Generation [View all] , imcvspl, Sun Jan-17-10 10:44 AM
 
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How did Dilla "change" Hip Hop though?
Jan 17th 2010
1
Is this a serious question?
Jan 17th 2010
3
are you seriously comparing Dilla to someone who literally changed
Jan 17th 2010
5
You realize Yoda was always right?
Jan 17th 2010
6
Didn't I tell you we weren't gonna agree on this shit. You can compare
Jan 17th 2010
12
      Did I say anything about agreeing? Yoda is always RIGHT!!!
Jan 17th 2010
14
           this is true
Jan 17th 2010
16
                in case you're wondering about the "also" in the og subject line
Jan 17th 2010
18
                     shit, i'ont agree with that post either, lol
Jan 17th 2010
21
Jan 17th 2010
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HA!! I been saying this forever... I even challenged ?uest on his
Jan 17th 2010
20
      That has very much been my opinion on Dilla overall.
Jan 17th 2010
23
      *whispers* don't tell anybody
Jan 17th 2010
26
           RE: *whispers* don't tell anybody
Jan 17th 2010
28
           genres should always be in quotes
Jan 17th 2010
46
                understood
Jan 17th 2010
60
                     Nosaj Thing and Exile were two examples recently raised round here
Jan 17th 2010
63
                          eh...
Jan 17th 2010
70
                               growth at times requires a broadening of definition
Jan 17th 2010
73
                               FIXED: growth requires progression
Jan 17th 2010
76
                                    If you don't hear progression in Nosaj Thing you don't want to.
Jan 17th 2010
83
                                         lol...OR maybe what he is doing isn't really progressive!
Jan 17th 2010
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                                              RE: lol...OR maybe what he is doing isn't really progressive!
Jan 17th 2010
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                                                   RE: lol...OR maybe what he is doing isn't really progressive!
Jan 17th 2010
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                               RE: eh...
Jan 19th 2010
189
           give me your best of influenced by Dilla producers I should check
Jan 17th 2010
30
                there are no 'true disciples of Dilla' nor are there of Hendrix
Jan 17th 2010
34
                     To me Prince is heavily influenced by Jimi, who's Dilla's Prince?
Jan 17th 2010
37
                     At what point in Prince's career would you make this declaration?
Jan 17th 2010
39
                     To me it's his stage presence... Prince's sound especially on For You
Jan 17th 2010
43
                          I don't hear more than peripheral influence on For You and Prince
Jan 17th 2010
48
                               Prince DOESN'T measure up to Jimi in my world, but the influence is
Jan 17th 2010
50
                                    that's why i went to specifics on technique
Jan 17th 2010
51
                                         and THAT'S why I hear Jimi... you clearly hear Dilla, I haven't been
Jan 17th 2010
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                                              OH SHIT!! We agree.
Jan 17th 2010
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                                                   of course HA!!
Jan 17th 2010
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                     jimi is not one of p's main influences
Jan 19th 2010
190
                     Can you answer post #28 please?
Jan 17th 2010
42
                     no response huh.... n/m
Jan 17th 2010
55
                          uhhh post #46
Jan 17th 2010
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                               my bad...I didn't see it. n/m
Jan 17th 2010
59
                     eddie hazel would strongly disagree with you
Jan 17th 2010
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                          elsewhere i mentioned ernie n/m
Jan 17th 2010
113
I agree. It isn't a knock to Dilla though.
Jan 17th 2010
75
      But can you articulate how Hendrix 'revolutionized rock n roll'?
Jan 17th 2010
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           Axis: Bold As Love -- read up on how that was produced
Jan 17th 2010
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                You're talking to me about Hendrix not his influence.
Jan 17th 2010
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                     the first 3:35 can articulate it for him...
Jan 17th 2010
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                     "and I went on afterwards and I just stood and strummed"
Jan 17th 2010
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                          THAT is the stand out quote, HA!!
Jan 17th 2010
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                     Listen to the music. Watch videos of him live. Music changed
Jan 17th 2010
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                          Pay attention to what I am asking...
Jan 17th 2010
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                               LOL
Jan 17th 2010
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                                    is that 'all there is to it'? LOL!!
Jan 17th 2010
144
                                         I'd rather educate you on more modern acts
Jan 17th 2010
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                                              Hendrix had a specific rhythm technique
Jan 17th 2010
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                                              animal collective are not all that innovative at all.
Jan 18th 2010
169
                                              someone hasn't heard feels, get the fuck outta here telling me that
Jan 18th 2010
176
                                              this exchange reminds me of k_orr's infamous rakim post
Jan 18th 2010
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Can you go a little deeper?
Jan 17th 2010
22
That's the yoda reply... there is no deeper.
Jan 17th 2010
24
hmmm...then this thread is bordering on Hip Hop revisionism
Jan 17th 2010
29
RE: Can you go a little deeper?
Jan 17th 2010
32
      So how would you compare Dilla to Madlib?
Jan 17th 2010
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      Somewhere above I admitted a lot of it is consequential...
Jan 17th 2010
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      hmmmm.........
Jan 17th 2010
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           ^^^any response to this? n/m
Jan 17th 2010
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           RE: hmmmm.........
Jan 17th 2010
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                RE: hmmmm.........
Jan 17th 2010
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                RE: hmmmm.........
Jan 19th 2010
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EVERYBODY WHO QUESTIONS DILLA'S LEGACY SHD BE ASKED THIS
Jan 17th 2010
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I believed it has
Jan 18th 2010
158
Nah. The Notorious BIG would be the closest.
Jan 17th 2010
2
Not enough output.
Jan 17th 2010
4
tupac
Jan 17th 2010
7
just edited #4 on this one.
Jan 17th 2010
11
primo
Jan 17th 2010
8
i accounted for him in #3
Jan 17th 2010
13
jay-z
Jan 17th 2010
9
"ungh!"
Jan 17th 2010
15
Jay Z and Hendrix
Jan 17th 2010
132
peter rock n roll
Jan 17th 2010
10
i'll illustrate something with this example
Jan 17th 2010
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until the electric goes out
Jan 17th 2010
25
*beat boxes "lightworks" to this reply*
Jan 17th 2010
27
Dude is not that iconic
Jan 17th 2010
31
*throws on "JDilla Changed My Life" t-shirt*
Jan 17th 2010
33
so he is moderately iconic?
Jan 19th 2010
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      lol u know wat he means bitch
Jan 19th 2010
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           dont tell me what i know
Jan 19th 2010
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                tell u wat I know....keep fuckin round & u'll have a dectum in ur rectum
Jan 19th 2010
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                     dont tell me what you know either
Jan 19th 2010
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                          you do the same with these gay ass Dilla posts
Jan 20th 2010
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                               fight me, b*tch
May 04th 2011
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Rakim
Jan 17th 2010
36
strong case could be made but post #17 also deals with him.
Jan 17th 2010
40
RE: Rakim
Jan 17th 2010
135
Dj Shadow. where does he fit into this? The Janis Joplin?
Jan 17th 2010
44
LOL @ Janis Joplin!!!
Jan 17th 2010
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the cd shrinkwrap sticker on "endroducing"
Jan 19th 2010
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RE: James "Jay Dee / J Dilla" Yancey is also the Hendrix of our Generati...
Jan 17th 2010
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no. no, he's not.
Jan 17th 2010
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are you going to just say 'no' or are you prepared to give it weight?
Jan 17th 2010
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he really isnt.
Jan 17th 2010
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the thing about dilla is not many of his beats had that impact
Jan 17th 2010
54
most valid counter point: no live chops
Jan 17th 2010
57
i thought about this a bit more
Jan 17th 2010
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      strong reply n/m
Jan 17th 2010
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      for argument sake...
Jan 17th 2010
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           ive never seen that
Jan 17th 2010
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i thought about this....
Jan 17th 2010
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      erm that would be kanye man
Jan 17th 2010
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           yeah... kinda... you right
Jan 17th 2010
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                dilla did bring some rythmic innovations
Jan 17th 2010
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SPACE RESERVED FOR POPWELL!!!
Jan 17th 2010
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don't fuck around, chum
Jan 17th 2010
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      ^^^ official seal of approval ^^^
Jan 17th 2010
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dilla is not even top 5 most influential of his own ERA much less of
Jan 17th 2010
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myopics are a bitch
Jan 17th 2010
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dude ur giving no specific examples tho. u realize ppl were playing
Jan 17th 2010
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your initial reply didn't warrant specific examples.
Jan 17th 2010
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like it or not but T Pain has influenced hip hop more than Dilla
Jan 17th 2010
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      show me in my original post where i limited this generation to hip-hop
Jan 17th 2010
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           um u realize hip hop is a sub set of music right.....
Jan 18th 2010
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                smh
Jan 19th 2010
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"do ya'll listen to music...or do you just skim through it?"
Jan 17th 2010
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      ^^^an example of how dying young can elevate someone to mythical levels
Jan 17th 2010
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      Dilla saved me from gaining 5 pounds... last night I saw the "Hot"
Jan 17th 2010
      u cannot say that....
Jan 17th 2010
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      yes I can because it is *my* opinion...nothing more and nothing less
Jan 17th 2010
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           aight cool....it's just that personally...i'm yet to see...
Jan 17th 2010
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                RE: aight cool....it's just that personally...i'm yet to see...
Jan 17th 2010
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      how you gonna tell everyone else their opinion?
Jan 19th 2010
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      Nigga
Jan 17th 2010
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           but honestly..who are you to say how someone affected another's life...
Jan 17th 2010
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                u right
Jan 17th 2010
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you need to point out artists/djs/bands/tracks if you're making that sta...
Jan 18th 2010
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      no disrespect to you but
Jan 18th 2010
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           yeah i just went through this whole thread and found nothing
Jan 19th 2010
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                welcome to the party
Jan 19th 2010
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                     RE: welcome to the party
Jan 19th 2010
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                          you're putting words into my mouth...
Jan 19th 2010
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                               RE: you're putting words into my mouth...
Jan 19th 2010
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go dig a hole.
Jan 19th 2010
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Dilla: hip hop:: Anvil: heavy metal
Jan 17th 2010
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RE: Dilla: hip hop:: Anvil: heavy metal:: Hendrix:Rock N Roll
Jan 17th 2010
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      please.
Jan 17th 2010
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      Hendrix was at one point a huge mainstream success.
Jan 17th 2010
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           Good point.
Jan 17th 2010
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           But do we say he's great because of his mainstream success?
Jan 17th 2010
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                No. But he had mainstream success. Dilla didn't.
Jan 18th 2010
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RE: James "Jay Dee / J Dilla" Yancey is also the Hendrix of our Generati...
Jan 17th 2010
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But who has already surpassed Dilla?
Jan 17th 2010
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Without question - MADLIB
Jan 17th 2010
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      I don't agree
Jan 17th 2010
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      I'm one of them too
Jan 18th 2010
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           Once and for all
Jan 18th 2010
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                actually I am serious, cumchomper
Jan 19th 2010
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                     Honestly MS has so many BORING beats
Jan 19th 2010
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                     I don't build with faggots
Jan 19th 2010
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                          RE: I don't build with faggots
Jan 19th 2010
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                               i've heard all the madlib
Jan 19th 2010
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                                    thats one album, HOMOHOUSER
Jan 19th 2010
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      how is that undebatable?
Jan 19th 2010
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           it's real simple...
Jan 20th 2010
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                orly?
Jan 20th 2010
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                     *plays "The Healer" to this reply*
Jan 20th 2010
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                          nice reply
May 04th 2011
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Clearly you are an elitist and your posts come off
Jan 17th 2010
106
clearly you don't know who the fuck i am
Jan 17th 2010
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      RE: clearly you don't know who the fuck i am
Jan 17th 2010
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muhahahahahahhahahaaha
Jan 17th 2010
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Main difference: Everyone who listened to rock knew who Jimi was
Jan 17th 2010
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yeah, pretty luda comparison...
Jan 17th 2010
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Sure, but we're talking influence not popularity.
Jan 17th 2010
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Addendum to address specifics
Jan 17th 2010
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      It has nothing to do with fame
Jan 18th 2010
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           peep
Jan 18th 2010
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                you could also say the same thing for Primo or Pete easily
Jan 18th 2010
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                i've accounted for them above
Jan 18th 2010
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                I'm sorry but this is some BULLSHIT
Jan 18th 2010
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                     it's not that serious and takes nothing from Hendrix
Jan 18th 2010
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                          fair enough but I respectfully disagree! n/m
Jan 18th 2010
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RE: Main difference: Everyone who listened to rock knew who Jimi was
Jan 17th 2010
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you do realize that jimmy not only changed rock, but funk & soul
Jan 17th 2010
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RE: you do realize that dilla not only changed hip-hop, but pop & soul
Jan 17th 2010
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      *lol* you might wanna stick to hip-hop, dilla didn't touch soul
Jan 17th 2010
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      "Hip-Hop, is bigger than the government... this one is for dilla hip-hop...
Jan 17th 2010
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      you're giving him WAAAAAAY too much credit
Jan 17th 2010
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           keep your rocket in your pocket popp
Jan 17th 2010
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           oh I ain't coming off on you
Jan 17th 2010
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           Eh, point of information
Dec 16th 2011
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If we limit &quot;our generation&quot; to Detroit hip-hop, yes.
Jan 17th 2010
119
it wont?
Dec 16th 2011
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/
Jan 17th 2010
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YOU CAME BACK!!!
Jan 17th 2010
123
somebody has studied how to make a buildingblock post 101
Jan 17th 2010
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..lol..i came in here to post this initially, but got distracted n/m
Jan 17th 2010
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LOL!! imcvspl is the buildingblock of this lesson generation
Jan 17th 2010
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Ha....a classic OKP moment right chea..!
Jan 18th 2010
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      i had to keep checkin' the name to make sure i ain't made this!
Jan 19th 2010
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I could see the validity in that but i dont agree
Jan 17th 2010
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can't be Jimi of the generation sampeling......sorry...
Jan 17th 2010
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say more, where's the limitation in dilla or the format?
Jan 17th 2010
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      the limitation is in the medium....
Jan 17th 2010
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           hmmmmmm....
Jan 17th 2010
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           Yes you can
Jan 18th 2010
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           jay z and basketball are apples and oranges...music is music
Jan 18th 2010
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                thats just your little box
Jan 19th 2010
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           dilla was written/arranged original material same as hendrix
Jan 19th 2010
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wowsers, you've outdone yourself this time.
Jan 18th 2010
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the thread that keeps on giving
Jan 18th 2010
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RUN DMC
Jan 18th 2010
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It took a long time for Hendrix's
Jan 18th 2010
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most of the artists that have the most impact aren't appreciated
Jan 18th 2010
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RE: James "Jay Dee / J Dilla" Yancey is also the Hendrix of our Generati...
Jan 18th 2010
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more like 3 1/2
Jan 18th 2010
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      RE: more like 3 1/2
Jan 19th 2010
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Incorrect.
Jan 19th 2010
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Nah bub
Jan 19th 2010
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RE: James "Jay Dee / J Dilla" Yancey is also the Hendrix of our Generati...
Jan 19th 2010
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2X http://i49.tinypic.com/2cyimgz.jpg
Jan 19th 2010
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trying to decide if the reaction to this is better/worse than me'shell
Jan 20th 2010
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i love this post
Oct 14th 2010
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lol @ u hatin ass haters
Jan 20th 2010
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up
May 04th 2011
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no one said tupac?!
May 04th 2011
224
You're kidding
May 04th 2011
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hell no. hendrix changed the way people conceptualized the guitar.
May 05th 2011
226
Ableton Live became what it is after Dilla died
May 05th 2011
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dude, hendrix made feedback a good thing.
May 05th 2011
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if you think hendrix invented feedback....
May 05th 2011
229
fair enough. i don't know who those people are.
May 05th 2011
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Nobody was programming drums like Jay Dee.
May 05th 2011
231
Hate to burst your idiot bubble, but deadmau5 changed Ableton Live
Dec 16th 2011
247
dilla changed the way people conceptualized the chop
May 06th 2011
240
This post is over a year old and yall still can't shut it down
May 05th 2011
230
I won't be so bold.
May 05th 2011
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that influence has been there...
May 05th 2011
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I usually go to GD to get my laughs, but this was a good one...
May 05th 2011
234
Dilla...
May 05th 2011
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      you're going all overboard with your point
May 06th 2011
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           RE: you're going all overboard with your point
May 06th 2011
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           RE: you're going all overboard with your point
Dec 16th 2011
252
I was gonna say this Dilla stannery has reached cult status...
May 06th 2011
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it really has been cult status for quite some time.
Dec 15th 2011
241
Lol, this is one of the dumbest shock posts in the history of the lesson...
Dec 16th 2011
243
Whatever.
Dec 16th 2011
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Nothing Dilla did with an MPC has opened doors for anyone.
Dec 16th 2011
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      You clearly have no idea.
Dec 16th 2011
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           Yes I do, I love both artists.
Dec 16th 2011
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                What Hendrix accomplished with a guitar...
Dec 16th 2011
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                     Hendrix had freakishly big hands...
Dec 17th 2011
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RE: Lol, this is one of the dumbest shock posts in the history of the le...
Dec 16th 2011
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      TWO YEAR OLD POST
Dec 16th 2011
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           I used to think you had some sense/knowledge of music.
Dec 16th 2011
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                did _you_ really just say this?
Dec 16th 2011
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                     I'm not bored when I'm writing shock posts tho
Dec 17th 2011
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                          LMAO.
Dec 17th 2011
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Who you be, baby? Jimi Hendrix can't work a beat thing!
Dec 17th 2011
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sorry dude. but this is a fuckin ignorant statement. jay dee was the
Dec 17th 2011
260
cross-post
Jun 27th 2012
261
can we get some moderation in here today?
Jul 25th 2012
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